Saturday, November 03, 2007

MORE PICS – DAP Ronnie Liu Arrested & Released – Obstructing Police & SJ Officers Sealing Hotel; Investigation of Link to Prostitution Syndicate

MORE PICS – DAP Ronnie Liu Arrested & Released Obstructing Police & SJ Officers Sealing Hotel; Ridiculous Investigation of Link to Prostitution Syndicate

Malaysiakini even if alerted would have no time to Record the Arrest of DAP CWC member in

Puchong. And the Current Hot news is still on Temple Demolition

Indian group forum stopped by police Andrew Ong | Nov 3, 07 9:45pm and

Temple row: 12 freed by police Andrew Ong | Nov 3, 07 5:34pm with

Malaysiakini.tv latest ON Forgotten victims in Kg Rimba Jaya

It is most unfortunate that Ronnie Liu a tireless worker in the DAP and a CWC member in the process of trying to help to right an injustice had himself arrested but he was released in no time. But to add insult they are also investigating the preposterous notion that he is “linked to a prostitution syndicate”.

When he got word that the Hotel was to be sealed he mustered 30 followers to prevent the sealing. The Spa and the restaurant above were in no way related to the vice activities and were most probably run by other operators. Why deny them the right to operate? How many will be jobless in the meantime when their places of work are sealed and closed until further notice? Isn't this grossly unfair to them?

And do you think the BN Lee Hwa Beng (ABOVE) a SJ council member & a "double agent" would help?

Bear in mind, this is Visit Malaysia Year 2007 and when you bring in too many tourists, you just cannot ask them to visit tourist attractions when the sun has set. And what should they do at night? Watch RTM1 & 2 in the hotel rooms? They must be entertained and the GROs do provide a service to keep tourists and locals busy at night.

The Warlords in Subang Jaya Municipal Council as of late had taken a tough stance against entertainment outlets (see Bottom, "haram" places in their eyes) they have agree now to postpone the chasing away of the pubs to the shopping complexes & hotels. They must be flexible and make adjustments to changing circumstances. How can they impose a quota of 40 only for SJ with the lame excuse that it would be difficult to monitor? When a City develops and expands in numbers, the number of licenses granted must also increase in tandem otherwise the existing places will be overcrowded. How can one enjoy a relaxing drink after a hard day's work in such conjested places?
ABOVE & BELOW: The police & SJ enforcement officers entering the 3-Star Hotel in Puchong Jaya

ABOVE: Officers Entering the Hotel and BELOW personally SJ Municipal Council President Adan Mad Ikhlas was present to see the show

DAP Central Committee Member Ronnie Liu was arrested by Police today for allegedly obstructing them from sealing a hotel during an anti vice operation last night. Police said Liu was questioned for trying to stop Police and enforcement officers from sealing the hotel. According to SJ Police Chief ASP Zainal Abdul Rashid (BELOW):

We have advised and sought his cooperation several times but he refused to move from the spot. We have no choice but to arrest him. He is still in Custody and is being investigated under section 186 of the Penal Code.”
Police released him after questioning and it is not known whether he will be charge. In the incident late last night

ABOVE: The Subang Jaya Police den Headquarters in Section 15?

Ronnne with 30 followers had attempted to stop the Police & Subang Jaya Municipal Jaya officers from sealing a hotel two hours after an anti vice raid at a 3-star Hotel in Puchong Jaya, Selangor. He was detained and Police are investigating whether the DAP CWC is linked to the prostitution syndicate.

Earlier the Police have detained 22 female foreigners who worked as GROs (ABOVE) (Guest Relations Officers) at the Hotel. Police believe the Hotel thrived as a prostitution den based on 2 days of surveillance of the premise.

The joint operation with the Subang Jaya Municipal Council also revealed the GROs secret hideout (BELOW)

SJ Municipal Council President Adnan Mad Ikhlas (ABOVE & BELOW)

We had received information and conducted raids before but did not find anything. The hotel rooms were all empty. We will seal everything in the hotel including the secret compartment (ABOVE) , the Spa and the restaurant on the top floor

Based on the passports seized, the GROs had arrived two months ago using tourist visas.

ABOVE & BELOW: The passports checked, all came in as tourists under VOA (VISA on Arrival), the brainchild of Tengku Adnan, the Tourism Minister?

and More GROs Pics Below, from China & Vietnam


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Sunday November 4, 2007
Liu held over obstructing cops and council workers

SUBANG JAYA: DAP central executive committee member Ronnie Liu allegedly tried to stop enforcement officers from sealing a budget hotel in Puchong Jaya, near here. He was detained at about 6.30pm on Friday and released at 4pm yesterday. Liu, who was arrested for allegedly obstructing the police and Subang Jaya Municipal Council enforcement officers from sealing the place, was questioned at the Subang Jaya district police headquarters. “We will forward our investigation papers to the authorities for further action,” said district police chief Asst Comm Zainal Rashid Abu Bakar.


He said the police had raided the hotel on Thursday and had rounded up 23 women – 19 Chinese nationals and four Vietnamese – who had been hiding in two secret cubicles. “The women are being questioned and will be handed over to the immigration authorities once investigations are completed,” added ACP Zainal Rashid. Twelve men were also picked up. ACP Zainal Rashid said Liu had gone to the place on Friday when the police and council officers were about to seal the premises. He claimed Liu verbally abused the policemen and council workers. ACP Zainal Rashid said police were still looking for the hotel owner.

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Saturday November 3, 2007, STAR
Reprieve for Subang Jaya pubs

LICENSED pubs in Subang Jaya can continue to operate at their current premises, at least until the end of next year. Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) president Adnan Md Ikhsan has confirmed at the latest full board meeting that the pubs can renew their licence and continue with their business in their current premises until the end of next year. Earlier last month, it was ann-ounced that the MPSJ wants to relocate all licensed pubs under its jurisdiction to shopping malls and hotels. Adnan, however, declined to say whether the pubs could continue operating at their existing locations after next year. On the new applicants to start pub business, Adnan said the MPSJ would exercise control, implying that probably no new licence would be issued. He said the existing number of pubs was enough and any new additions would be difficult for the MPSJ to monitor.

Our quota is only for 40 licences,” Adnan said. On why letters to relocate were only issued to licensed pubs and not the unlicensed ones, Adnan said the council had no information on the illegal pubs. “Sometimes, it's just a perception of the public that a pub has no licence. They don't know what the real situation is,” he said. Councillor Dr Kow Cheong Wei said there were occasions he had received tip-off from the public regarding an unlicensed pub, but on entering, he found that the pub was actually modelled as a restaurant hence there was no requirement for the required licences. Adnan said he welcomed people to provide information if they had facts of unlicensed pubs.

He said such that anyone operating a pub without a licence would be fined a maximum compound of RM25,000 and a court order would be taken. “I ask the councillors to support those that are good. As for those that often disregard the rules, the MPSJ would not hesitate to close them and their quota given to another person,” he said.

= == = == = == = == == = == see related Post H E R E On previous raids 28 Jun 07 by MPSJ

1. MORE PICS & Video – Massage Parlor Raid at Puchong – 28 Jun 2007; Conducted by 30 MPSJ and Jais Staff from 8pm to 4am; 25 Detained; RM80 fine for each

= = =OR see Jalan Pudu Raid Post H E R E

2 MORE PICS & Video Raids; SJ Massage parlors - Rooms Destroyed 19 Masseurs detained; Raid Jalan Petaling-8 Indo Detained; Jalan Pudu 14 PRC + 1 Thai

= == = =OR see Bandar Sri Damansara Raid Post H E R E ON

3 MORE PICS – RAID on Massage PARLOR 18 Female Foreigners (15 Chinese, 2Thais & 1 Vietnamese) Detained;

OR = = == = = if you are dreaming about it, Go H E R E take a look at the

MORE PICS – New HONDA STREAM streaming Direct to All Malaysians via Authorized Dealers; launching Nov 07; . A timely blessing and benefit to new owners as the prices would not be much different from current existing model

Haider: Possibility Lingam Clip Unauthentic; hinted “Case may Close”; Datuk Nazri concurered Government’s position; Interim results by Local Experts

Haider: Possibility Lingam Clip Unauthentic; hinted “case may close”; Datuk Nazri concurred; Based on local report by Cyber Security

Malaysiakini has the story of ACA wanting the full length of the Video Clip

ACA repeats demand for original recording Oct 23, 07 6:33pm and its
Malaysiakini.tv latest is ON MIC to the rescue?

This was a possible spin Datuk Nazri was making through the TV station to cushion the public when the Final Panel Results are announced after next Wednesday when the panel is expected to submit a report of the findings.

This preliminary premature finding is rather suspicious. What about the announcement that a copy of the Clip has been sent to HK ACA equivalent for verification? Have they got no results and why based the findings entirely on these so called experts “local experts” whose credentials and records are doubtful? It looks like another BIG FIX if they cannot compare the local opinion with those from the overseas experts. They must reveal the digital forensic methodology and criteria they employed to come to the conclusion that the clip is not authentic?

Is it NOT authentic because it is NOT the original? Like you compare pirated discs with Originals. The ONLY "original" would be the ONLY one residing in the cell phone and it would most probably have been erased by now after 5 years. So actually there is NO original left. The argument they might be using would be on similar lines if they are asked to verify confiscated pirated copies of VCD or DVD disc. They can easily verify fake copies the as any duplication would involve loss in "quality".
They should study the tampering of the clip and see if audio & video tracks have been superimposed on and altered. The report might be made public but who would challenge these 2 local experts in their conclusion? Are they going to include copy of the report?
My simple analysis using the Video Ulead software on a sample 30 sec of the Lingam Video clip revealed no such tampering or cheating. (See details H E R E)

And further checks revealed no such company Cyber Security Sdn Bhd, the closest is


located at: CyberSecurity Malaysia (formerly known as NISER),
Level 7, SAPURA @ MINES, 7, Jalan Tasik, The Mines Resort City,
43300 Seri Kembangan, Selangor Darul Ehsan,

Yes their services include Audio Video Forensics

But have they done any authenticity checks on Videos before as their work and consultancies are mainly on Cyber security tracking & spying on internet, virus attacks etc? look at their track records.


Digital Forensics
Today, CyberSecurity Malaysia exists as the national reference and specialist centre in cyber security under the purview of the Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation (MOSTI).But have they got the experience to do this verification?

Cyber Forensics and Analysis Investigations is the core services of the Digital Forensic Lab of CyberSecurity Malaysia. We offer digital forensics services to law enforcement agencies, government agencies, organizations and the general public. The services are offered based on the systematic foundation of digital forensics methodology, which involves digital evidence collection, preservation, analysis and presentation.

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Is this the same company checking on this tape? How can Haider based the conclusion from these 2 local boys who are guarding the internet?

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The following is a full actual transcript of the news story aired Thursday morning, after midnight and followed by a short an interview with Nazri who mentioned that a final decision can only be made after looking at the final report.

“There is a possibility the video Clip purportedly showing a phone conversation between a senior lawyer and a Judge is not authentic. Chairman of the Special Panel probing the case Tan Sri Haider therefore hintedcase may be closed”. The preliminary decision was made after studying the report prepared by Cyber Security Sdn Bhd regarding the 8 min Clip.
Tan Sri Haider made the remarks Wednesday when contacted by the station. He said the panel full report will be readied latest by next Wednesday (10th Nov 2007)

The analysis of the video clip was made by 2 local experts from Cyber Security Sdn Bhd. led by its digital forensic head Aszmarfidilah Mohd Ariffin. As at this juncture nobody has come forward to give any statement to the panel despite the government assurance that the informant will be protected. Meantime ACA DG when contacted expressed his disappoint with Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s refusal to hand over the original copy of clip"

= = == =and Nazri's response, he concurred with the panel; the final report (by next Wednesday) will be as expected - no case





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CJ Ahmad Fairuz Out; In Acting CJ Abdul Hamid Mohamad Quashing Unfounded fears that “triple jumper” Zaki Tun Azmi would be CJ

November 01, 2007 20:46 PM

Appeals Court President Made Acting Chief Justice

PUTRAJAYA, Nov 1 (Bernama) -- Court of Appeal President Datuk Abdul Hamid Mohamad was today made acting Chief Justice until the post is filled, according to a statement issued by the Prime Minister's Department. The move follows the retirement of Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim yesterday. The statement said that according to the Courts of Judicature Act 1964 (Act 91), if a vacancy occurred for the post of Chief Justice, the power could be exercised by the President of the Court of Appeal. As such, Abdul Hamid will act in the post beginning today until the vacancy is filled. The post will be filled as soon as possible. The statement said the Malaysian government thanked Ahmad Fairuz, 66, for his excellent contribution to the judiciary and the country. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi thanked Ahmad Fairuz for his outstanding contribution to the country's judicial system. Speaking at a press conference with the country's two astronauts at his office here, Abdullah hoped Ahmad Fairuz would continue to make contributions in the interest of the country in future. Asked when the post would be filled, the Prime Minister said "as soon as possible".

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November 01, 2007 21:36 PM

Tun Ahmad Fairuz's Position Not Discussed At Rulers Meeting

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 1 (Bernama) -- The position of former Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Rahim, whose tenure ended yesterday, was not discussed at the 212th meeting of the Conference of Rulers here today. A spokesman at the office of the Keeper of the Rulers' Seal told Bernama that the issue was not touched on and was not even in the agenda. "What was reported in a newspaper about the rulers discussing his position was merely speculation," he said. (Star was the one suggesting the impossible)

ABOVE & BELOW: PM Abdullah respects Royalty and is on good terms with them and mutually they would not do anything to rock the BN boat. So would all the Royal petitions be in vain?

Ahmad Fairuz, who turned 66 yesterday, the mandatory retirement age for judges as stated in the Federal Constitution, was appointed as Chief Justice on March 17, 2003. Today's meeting was held at the Istana Negara and was chaired by Sultan Azlan Shah of Perak. The Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin attended the meeting accompanied by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. The Keeper of the Rulers' Seal Engku Tan Sri Ibrahim Engku Ngah in a statement said the meeting discussed matters on defence, security, the current economic situation and education.

ABOVE: PM Abdullah after 4 years have Nothing to shout about and celebrate and he was given this miserable Fruit Cake to cut. Wow is it that big strawberry? Looks like a RM50 one from the nearby cake shop but the bill would have been inflated to RM500 as standard practice?

At the end of the meeting, Abdullah was presented a cake to mark his fourth anniversary as Prime Minister.

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Abdullah must be mindful that a greater constitutional crisis than the one that will erupt with the extension of Ahmad Fairuz’ term as Chief Justice from Nov. 1 will be the appointment of an UMNO Chief Justice, namely Tan Sri Zaki Azmi

(Parliament, Saturday): There is growing concern that to avoid a grave constitutional crisis that will erupt with the extension of Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim as Chief Justice after Nov. 1, the country may be plunged to another equally grave crisis of confidence in the independence and integrity of the judiciary – the appointment of an UMNO Chief Justice for the first time in the 50-year history of Malaysia, namely Tan Sri Zaki Tun Azmi.

The appointment of Zaki as Federal Court Judge in early September, which involved an unprecedented “triple jump” without first serving as judge of High Court and Court of Appeal, was the first in the nation’s 50-year history, raising the question whether the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi was paving the way to appoint Zaki as a future Chief Justice.

Nobody questions the legal qualifications and capabilities of Zaki but there are many legitimate questions as to the suitability of his judicial appointment, in particular as Chief Justice.Is the country going to start the second half-century of nationhood with an UMNO Chief Justice, when for five decades, there had never been any judge who could be said to be an UMNO judge in terms of his party membership and his long services to UMNO as a political party.

For the past 22 years, Zaki was an active UMNO member and lawyer, representing UMNO in many controversial and even dubious UMNO cases, culminating variously as head of UMNO legal advisor; head of UMNO disciplinary committee panel and in 2001 as Deputy Chairman of UMNO Disciplinary Board of Appeal.

Is Zaki still an UMNO member? If he had resigned from UMNO, when did he resign from UMNO? Even if Zaki had resigned from UMNO, at a time when the greatest challenge of the judiciary is to restore national and international confidence in the independence and integrity of the judiciary after two decades of erosion and devastation, will Zaki’s further elevation in the judiciary to become the Chief Justice be conducive to such an uphill task which had been the bane of Malaysia’s world standing and international competitiveness?

After his appointment to the Federal Court in early September, Zaki said that he was given less than 24 hours to decide whether he would accept the appointment, and he described it as a “national service”. What is even more important is whether public perception, both national and international, will regard it more as “UMNO service” rather than “national service”. In the circumstances, it would be a major faux pas of the Prime Minister to plunge the country from one judicial crisis of confidence to another, re-opening anew the urgency for the establishment of a Judicial Appointments and Promotions Commission to remove extraneous considerations and factors in judicial appointments which could only undermine public confidence in the judiciary.

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Cops record statements from Bar Council officials

Pauline Puah

PUTRAJAYA (Nov 1, 2007): The police today recorded the statement from Bar Council office bearers on the 'Walk for Justice' the latter organised on Sept 26.

Bar Council chairwoman Ambiga Sreenevasan, vice-president Ragunath Kesavan and secretary Lim Chee Wee had their statement recorded in the Putrajaya district police headquarters this afternoon. This was the second time they were asked to give their statement. On Oct 23, the three had declined to give their statement as the police had failed to present them with a copy of the first information report, which should contain information on the alleged offence they were being investigated for, the name of the complainants, and the date and number of the police report. Met after the 45-minute meeting with the police, Ambiga said they were informed this time that the investigation was related to assembly without police permit, under Article 27 of the Police Act. "Our lawyers were officially notified by the officers that the previous request for information and first information report were rejected after obtaining advice from the DPP (deputy public prosecutor). "No further details on the nature of the offence were given to us apart from the general statement that we are being investigated under Article 27 of the Police Act," she told reporters. She declined to give more details on the statement.

Putrajaya CID chief ASP M. Gunalan, who is conducting the investigation, said the investigation paper would be referred to the DPP later to decide on the next course of action. Ambiga was represented by Sulaiman Abdullah, while Ragunath and Lim were represented by M. Puravalen and Cheow Wee respectively. At the "Walk for Justice", about 2,000 people, half of them lawyers, marched from the Palace of Justice to the Prime Minister's Department in Putrajaya, to hand over a memorandum asking for a Royal Commission to be set up to investigate a video clip allegedly showing a senior lawyer brokering the appointment of judges with a senior judge.

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November 03, 2007 01:29 AM

Individual Who Distributed Nurin's Autopsy Pictures Identified

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 3 (Bernama) -- The identity of the individual responsible for distributing the autopsy pictures of murdered Nurin Jazlin Jazimin, eight, has been identified and will be charged in court soon. Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan who disclosed this
Friday night, said the investigation had been completed. "We have identified the person and he will be charged soon. We will inform the media when we are ready to charge him," he told reporters after a police Hari Raya Aidilfitri open house at the Police Training Centre here. He said the police could not provide more details on the individual as investigations into Nurin's murder case were still ongoing. The autopsy pictures of Nurin, a Year Two pupil of Sekolah Kebangsaan Desa Setapak who went missing in August and whose dead body was found stuffed in a sports bag in the PJS area on Sept 20, were widely distributed through the Internet last month.
Meanwhile, on the suspension of Datuk Ramli Yusuff as the Commercial Crime Investigation director at Bukit Aman, Musa said it was a normal government procedure and police disciplinary action.

"Any civil servant who is charged in court will face the same action," he said, adding that the suspension would not affect the image of the police force. When asked on Ramli's replacement, Musa said it was too early to decide and had not been discussed at any meeting.
In the Session's Court here Thursday, the Anti-Corruption Agency charged Ramli with three counts of failing to fully disclose his assets and unlawfulling engaging in business while being a public servant. Ramli, 55, who pleaded not guilty to the charges, was freed on bail of RM20,000 with one surety while waiting for his trial on Jan 15 next year.

MORE PICS – Police Detective Demanded RM1000 to Close case Arrested and Released on RM5000 Bail; Scuffled & Pulled Gun on an ACA Officer

Malaysiakini are short handed (vacancies for journalist & sub-editor which I am interested but I cannot apply as I don't even have a Certificate in Mass Communication from Tar College. But I can read between the printed text & see the great injustices that are going around the place we called Malaysia. Presently jobless so do a few quick clicks anywhere to give me a cup of coffee to stay awake or donate a few cents to Paypal) and they are unable to cover ACA cases out of the Town. And the Hot topic is the Bersih gathering with Suhakam pleading
Suhakam: Abide by laws on public rallies Beh Lih Yi & Kuek Ser Kuang Keng | Nov 2, 07 2:55pm
and with the latest Malaysiakini.tv on (Apparently, the MIC settle the temple demolition with MB Mohd Toyo)

MIC to the rescue?
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It is interesting to observe time after time when we see suspects being arrested and produced in courts (for whatever crimes they have been allegedly to have committed) , they would try to cover up and hide their faces. For what?- the Fear & Shame?. And if the suspects are police personnel themselves, they would get the extra help and are properly covered up not to expose the faces. Look at the two hooded accused we see daily in the Altantuya Murder Trial and the cover up of the one below, 4 officers escorting this Police detective with the extra T-shirt thrown in and all making sure it would not drop off to expose his shameful face of asking for RM1000 to settle (kow tim, the Cantonese colloquial dialect) a case.

But surprising the bigger the shots are, they are not too fearful & shameful to cover up (but deep down, the humiliation is there). No way can cover themselves so they have to put up brave faces and try to face the music; good examples our RM27M Top Cop Datuk Ramli and the high profile Abdul Razak Baginda.

Now why is this so? Maybe they have this added confidence, they believe that they have done “nothing wrong and not involved” and were caught only on technicalities. With big ringgit at hand, their lawyers can surely “kow dim” their problems. In cases of murder, it is very simple, just cast some doubts on the evidence, mention the exhibits are exposed, not guarded and opened to “tempering” and the Judge can fix it saying it has not been proved “beyond reasonable doubts and “no concrete evidence” he actually do it. No prima facie case and this is how you can get away with murder in the good old days of the exited CJ and even now.

So fear & shame is a big deterrent and the police & ACA should adopt this Motto.
Take Not for the Fear & Shame” And in our own way, we can adapt it to our properties. In our hand phone, in our possessions and even in books etc, if there spaces available, we can add in “Take not for the Fear & Shame” adding “Return it to the Owner” and don’t forget to include a contact number or in the case of a book evenyou name & address.

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ABOVE & BELOW: Police colleagues "over protection" of the suspect escorting him to the car. Expose & unmask them for the "fear & shame"
In Ipoh a Police detective who was engaged in a tussle with an ACA official on Thursday in which he had to withdraw his pistol was released on bail on Friday. However, Perak ACA deputy Director Noraismi Shaari said the suspect was still being investigated.

ABOVE & BELOW: Police colleagues "over protection" of the suspect escorting him to the car. Expose and unmask them for the "fear & shame"

The case was pertaining to a graft probe where RM1000 was offered to close the case. He was detained late Thursday and was taken to the Ipoh Police station (BELOW: this building is only one of the block; the Main one is oppoiste) for a statement to be recorded. Release at 4pm Friday on RM5000 police bail.

Perak CID chief SAC Ismail Yakim said action can be taken against the suspect according to Section 353 of the penal Code. Suspect can be slapped and charged for using force and preventing a Government employee from carrying out his duty and besides using his firearms.

What happened yesterday


An ACA officer was hurt when a policeman resisted arrest and drew out his gun and a scuffled ensued. In the incident a group of ACA officers went to a petrol Kiok in Pasir Puteh, Ipoh to arrest the Police officer.. He resisted and fled in a motorcycle He was however persuaded to surrender. He is alleged to be involved in corruption when a member of public complained that he asked for money to solve a case

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November 03, 2007 01:29 AM
Individual Who Distributed Nurin's Autopsy Pictures Identified
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 3 (Bernama) -- The identity of the individual responsible for distributing the autopsy pictures of murdered Nurin Jazlin Jazimin, eight, has been identified and will be charged in court soon. Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan who disclosed this Friday night, said the investigation had been completed. "We have identified the person and he will be charged soon. We will inform the media when we are ready to charge him," he told reporters after a police Hari Raya Aidilfitri open house at the Police Training Centre here. He said the police could not provide more details on the individual as investigations into Nurin's murder case were still ongoing. The autopsy pictures of Nurin, a Year Two pupil of Sekolah Kebangsaan Desa Setapak who went missing in August and whose dead body was found stuffed in a sports bag in the PJS area on Sept 20, were widely distributed through the Internet last month.

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Haider: Possibility Lingam Clip Unauthentic; hinted “case may close”; Datuk Nazri concurred; Based on local report by Cyber Security

The analysis of the video clip was made by 2 local experts from Cyber Security Sdn Bhd. lead by its digital forensic head Azmarfidilah Moh Ariffin.

But further checks revealed no such company, the closest is

Yes their services include Audio Video Forensics

But have they done any authenticity checks before as their work and consultancies are mainly on Cyber tracking on internet, virus attacks etc? And what about the test results from HK?

How can Haider based the conclusion from these local boys who are guarding the internet only?

MORE Details before noon in the next Post

and also more Pics

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MORE PICS – New HONDA STREAM streaming Direct to All Malaysians via Authorized Dealers; launching Nov 07; . A timely blessing and benefit to new owners as the prices would not be much different from current existing model


Friday, November 02, 2007

MORE PICS – RM27M No 3 Cop Ramli Yusoff Day in Court 1st Nov 07 – 3+1 Charges; Reality Check on Ramli; Wife - Stand by your Man, right or wrong

UPDATE: Nov 02 07

November 02, 2007 19:46 PM
Ramli May Be Suspended Pending Disposal Of Court Case

SEREMBAN, Nov 2 (Bernama) -- Commercial Crime Investigation Department director Datuk Ramli Yusuff, who is charged with failing to make full disclosure of his assets and unlawful involvement in business, may be suspended pending disposal of the court case.

Deputy Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Mohd Najib Abd Aziz (ABOVE) said the the normal procedure under the General Orders would be to suspend a policeman facing court action. "After the court case has been settled, it is up to the police force to decide on the action against Ramli," he told reporters during a visit, prior to his retirement on Nov 13, to the Negeri Sembilan police contingent headquarters here today. He said the action taken against Ramli and allegations of corruption hurled at IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan would not affect the morale of the police, although it dented the image of the force.

Yesterday, Ramli was charged in the Sessions Court in Kuala Lumpur with two counts of failing to disclose information on his assets comprising two office units and 154,000 units of shares, and another for involvement in business while being a public servant.

= = == = ==Malaysiakini as always had an early and updated record of Datuk Ramli's Day at the court

Ramli charged for non-disclosure of assets Nov 1, 07 10:57amwith a Breaking Story on the Acting New CJ
Abdul Hamid named acting chief justice Nov 1, 07 7:56pm and
Malaysiakini.tv coverage of Ramli's Dark Day on 1st Nov 2007
Ramli charged for non-disclosure of assets
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Greed has no limits to many. How many would have realized by now that:

All worldly pursuits end in sorrow;
Acquisitions end in dispersion;
Buildings in destruction;
Meetings in separation;
Births in deaths?

Knowing this, one should from the very first, renounce acquisition and heaping up, building, meeting; and be faithful to the commands of an eminent guru; set about realizing the Truth (which has no birth or death).That alone is the best path in life and most religious people have followed it.

No one is a saint when one is born. When we are born into this world of Maya, of illusion, we have to undergo all the procedures of a human being. We have to be ignorant again; we have to suffer all these illusionary desires, and then the disappointment of the unfulfilled desires and all those kind of things until one day we have enough of it and say,
Okay, that’s it. Now, whatever I have I have; if I don’t, I don’t. That’s the time you reached complete liberation. You liberate yourself from all the problems, from your own self made prison and also your own learned prejudices about who you are?
If we do a reality check on this No 3 Top Cop, his current dilemma, problems, the so called persecution and prosecution and the charges levied against him. Who created all his problems? Is he being set up by somebody? Is it the ACA that is persecuting him? Is it done by his enemies? No, he created all this by himself for there is this universal reality rule that

You create your reality wherever you are and there is no exception”. And now, if you realize that you create your physical reality through your OWN thoughts and desires, then you have learned the MOST important aspect of reality

The 55 year old Datuk Ramli Yussof claimed trial to all three charges. ACA slammed him 2 counts. Another charge is pending on Nov 19 2007 in Sabah Sessions Court.

ABOVE: Arriving with wife & 4 lawyers in his gleaming BMW with OIC plate and BELOW: Bravely walked into the welcoming arms of ACA, only to be arrested 1/2 hr after a brief statement was recorded and was taken to the Session Court in the afternoon

== == == = = == = == BELOW: Hand on arm, Stand by your man for some support when he is down. Wife is sessions court 3 judge Datuk Anita Harun
11.20 am arriving in BMW car at ACA office with wife 4 lawyers. Half hour after statement was recorded, he was arrested and was produced in court.

ABOVE & BELOW: Seen entering the ACA Hq in Putra Jaya soon after arriving

3,10 pm After 38 years of being in the police force, he was taken in a white SUV into the Jlan Duta Court complex. Family’s members & officers from CCID were there to lend him the moral support.

ABOVE: With his lawyer Rosli Dahlan (who faced a similar charge, and later disqualified) and BELOW: Off to the Session court in a white SUV
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It will be the darkest day of his life after enduring 3 months of sufferings. All eyes were on him and being mobbed. The shame & ignominy of a fallen hero.

ABOVE: The Jalan Duta Courts Complex and BELOW: Arriving in a white SUV Vehicle

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ABOVE & BELOW: tagging along, moral support from wife and daughter

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ABOVE: Escorted by Lead Counsel Datuk K.Kumaraendran and BELOW: Other fellow officers from CCID

= == = == = == = == = == =after a Hard Day at Court

ABOVE: a briefing from his lawyer and BELOW: Still can manage a smile

and BELOW: in a moment of reflection on what happened at the end of the day, the sadness is there

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CCID director Ramli claims trial to three charges
R. Surenthira Kumar, theSUN

KUALA LUMPUR (Nov 1, 2007): Federal Commercial Crimes Investigations Department director Datuk Ramli Yusuff today claimed trial to three charges - two for non-disclosure of assets and a third charge for involvement in business while being a public servant - in a sessions court here today.

ABOVE & BELOW: The 1st two charges, one pending on Nov 19 07 in Sabah

On the first charge of non-disclosure of assets under Section 32(2) of the Anti-Corruption Act 1997, Ramli allegedly failed to declare the ownership of two lots of business suites in the Megan Avenue II building located on Jalan Yap Kwan Seng here.The value of the two office units, during acquirement, was worth RM1, 032, 840 million and was held by two directors of Bonus Circle Sdn Bhd who were named as Ramli’s elder and younger sisters, Rohmah@ Hasmah Yusoff and Roslina respectively.

On the second charge, Ramli allegedly failed to declare the ownership of 154,000 units of shares in Permaju Industries Sdn Bhd. The two offences were allegedly committed by Ramli at the ACA headquarters in Putrajaya on Sept 17, for failing to adhere to the written notice, under Setion 32(1)(a) of the Anti-Corruption Act, which requires him to declare in writing and under oath, on assets, movable or immovable, owned by him or which he had interest in and also, all sources of income. The third, a summons charge, alleged that Ramli, on April 25, 2006, being a public servant, a Commissioner of Police holding the position of the director of the Commercial Crimes Investigations Department in Bukit Aman had flouted the Regulation 5(1)(a) of the Public Servants Rules and Regulations (Amendment) 2002 which prohibited him from being involved in business.


ABOVE: The dates fixed and BELOW: The scope of the penalties if convicted

He was alleged to have taken part in business by being involved in Kinsajaya Sdn Bhd as a director of the company, and had thus committed an offence under Section 168 of the Penal Code. After the first two charges were read to him by the court interpreter, Ramli claimed trial.

ACA Deputy Public Prosecutor (DPP) Mohd Jazamuddin Ahmad Nawawi (ABOVE) told judge S.M.Komathy Suppiah the prosecution would be calling 20 witnesses and requested for one-week for the trial to kick-off. He said since the offences were bailable, they had no objections to allow Ramli to go overseas to perform "umrah" but requested that he hand over his passport once he returns. Ramli’s lawyer, Datuk K.Kumaraendran appealed for Ramli’s passport not to be impounded by the court.

"He is the third highest ranking police, the director of the Commercial Crimes Investigations Department and has been in the force for 38 years. His entire career hangs in jeopardy because of these charges. " It has cast a shadow on his character as a senior police officer. (The) accused intends to restore his good name and this is sufficient reason for him to appear in court and clear his name," Kumarendran told the court. He objected to the application for Ramli’s passport to be surrendered to the court, saying such a move was additional security for someone who might abscond, and there was no evidence to suggest that Ramli is about to flee the charge. Kumaraendran said being a senior police officer, there was no chance of Ramli absconding and appealed for the court to allow Ramli to stand on his personal bond to attend the hearing. He added that Ramli, who is about to perform the "umrah" overseas was also scheduled to accompany the Sultan of Kelantan in the pilgrimage.

Mohd Jazamuddin said Ramli should be no different from any other man-on-the-street and the application for his passport to be impounded by the court applies to everyone else. He said the prosecution had no objection to Ramli being allowed to perform the "umrah" but once he returns the passport has to be surrendered to the court. Kumaraendran argued that Ramli had been very cooperative with the ACA and had gone to their headquarters after being told to for his statement to be recorded, only to be charged instead. He applied for Ramli to be released on his personal bond, but Komathy rejected the application.

"Datuk Ramli, you can keep your passport," said Komathy before setting bail at RM20,000 and fixing Jan 15 to 18 for the case to be heard. Ramli, who was in the dock when the two charges were read out to him, then stepped out when the summons charge was read to him and claimed trial. Mohd Jazamuddin said the prosecution will be calling 15 witnesses and asked for an early date. Kumaraendran said he had to look at the charge in detail as he was not privy to some of the details earlier and that his defence team might seek a joint-trial date for the three charges. Jazamuddin said they were not looking at a joint-trial but agreed for the third charge to be mentioned on the dates fixed earlier, on Jan 15.

Also present in court today were Ramli’s wife, sessions court 3 judge Datuk Anita Harun and lawyer Rosli Dahlan who was recently charged in court for failing to declare his assets in connection with the investigations into Ramli by the ACA. It is learnt Rosli had attempted to represent Ramli but had to disqualify himself from doing so by the ACA. Besides Anita and Roslan, others believed to be Ramli’s sisters and relatives, friends and police officers in plain clothes were in court to lend moral support to Ramli.

Kumaraendran was assisted by Datuk C. Vijaya Kumar and Harvinderjit Singh while Zulkarnain Hassan assisted Mohd Jazamuddin. Ramli’s bail was posted by a friend, businessman Datuk Roger Tan.

= = = =from AP

Malaysia's No. 3 policeman arrested, charged with corruption
By JULIA ZAPPEI,Associated Press Writer AP - Friday, November 2
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - One of Malaysia's top ranked police officers was arrested and charged with corruption Thursday for allegedly concealing massive wealth _ a scandal likely to further tarnish. Ramli Yusoff, director of the Commercial Crime Investigation Department, was charged with failing to reveal that he owned property worth about 1 million ringgit (US$300,000; �200,000) and 154,000 shares of unspecified value in a manufacturing firm. It is not known how much the shares are worth. If convicted he faces up to 20 years in jail.

The country's third-highest ranking police officer, Ramli was also charged with breaching government employee rules by being the director of a separate company, a charge punishable by up to two years in jail. Ramli, the country's third-highest ranking police officer, was freed on 20,000 ringgit bail (US$5,700; �4,000). The trial is scheduled to start Jan. 15. He pleaded innocent to the charges in court and claimed he was a victim of the Anti-Corruption Agency, which investigated him. He also accused the police force of failing to back him up. The ACA said he is the most senior police officer ever charged with corruption in independent Malaysia's history. Ramli, 55, had stunned the police force by holding a news conference Tuesday, when he told reporters he was being investigated for allegedly concealing assets worth 27 million ringgit (US$8.1 million; �5.6 million). His prosecution will help bolster Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's pledge to reduce corruption. However, critics say that since taking power in 2003, his efforts have shown scant success, with few major arrests or convictions.

Ramli's lawyer, K. Kumarendran, said his client believes he is being used to create the impression that Malaysia has been taking serious steps against corruption.
"The current charge has cast a shadow on his character and credibility as a respectable senior officer," the lawyer told the court, adding that Ramli's 38-year career in the Royal Malaysian Police was now in jeopardy. The Star daily said in an editorial Thursday the case exposed an unprecedented level of enmity within
Malaysia's police force.
"No one can deny the talk of disunity within the top brass of the force," the paper said. "Still, the power play is somewhat scary, if not macabre, to most Malaysians who have never witnessed such open tension within the police force."

Malaysia's more than 90,000-member police force has long suffered a reputation for bribery, inefficiency and failure to respect human rights.d force.

= == = Brief Bernama account

November 01, 2007 17:11 PM
Ramli Charged For Non-declaration Of Assets, Business Dealings

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 1 (Bernama) -- Commercial Crimes Investigation Department director Datuk Ramli Yusoff was charged in the Sessions Court here Thursday with two counts of failing to make a full disclosure of his assets and another for involvement in business. Ramli, 55, the country's third highest ranking police officer hauled up to court by the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA), claimed trial to all the three charges. In the first charge, he is alleged to have not declared an office lot located at a building in Megan Avenue II at Jalan Yap Kwan Seng here and another office lot on the same floor of the building. The properties, worth about RM1 million, were held under the name of his two sisters -- Rohmah @ Hasmah Yusoff, 58, and younger sister,

Roslina Yusoff, who were directors of Bonus Circle Sdn Bhd, an investment holding company. In the second charge, Ramli is alleged to have not declared the 154,000 shares he had in PERMAJU Industries Berhad, a property company. The two offences were allegedly committed at the deputy public prosecutor's office at the ACA headquarters in Putrajaya on September 17. For the two offences, Ramli was charged under Section 32(2) of the Anti-Corruption Act 1997, which carries a minimum jail term of 14 days and maximum 20 years and RM100,000 fine, if convicted. For the third charge, Ramli, as a public officer and a police commissioner holding the post of Commercial Crimes Investigation Department director, was bound by the law not to be involved in business as stipulated under Regulation 5(1)(a) of the Public Officers Regulations (Conduct and Discipline) (Amendment) 2002 but was involved in business in his capacity as a director of Kinsajaya Sdn Bhd, a real estate company.

For this offence, he was charged under Section 168 of the Penal Code, which carries one year maximum jail term or fine or both, upon conviction. Ramli was produced before Sessions Judge S.M. Komathy at about 3.30pm.

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Ramli didn’t break any rules’

RAHMAN DAROS and MOHD YAAKOB YUSOF, MM, Nov 01 07

FEDERAL Commercial Crime Investigation Department director Datuk Ramli Yusuff had not flouted any regulations by holding a Press conference on Tuesday at his Bukit Perdana offi ce without informing Bukit Aman or the Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan. A senior Bukit Aman officer, in confirming that Ramli had not notified the headquarters of his intention to hold the Press conference, said while Ramli had not committed any breach of the regulations, it was peculiar as the Press conference was personal in nature, but was conducted at his office in his capacity as the commercial crime director.

“As the head of the commercial crime department, he has the right to hold Press conferences. However, these are normally related to official duties.” The official said Musa, who had been quoted by an English daily as saying that he had not been informed of Ramli’s Press conference, had not instructed Ramli to explain his actions. The Malay Mail, however, learnt that media reports on the Press conference held by Ramli had been compiled. It could not be immediately ascertained why this was done. Musa, when contacted late last night, declined comment.
I have nothing to say.”


Ramli was also quoted by Bernama as questioning the motive of the Anti-Corruption Agency in interrogating his two sisters in Putrajaya and Kota Baru yesterday evening. Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Nazri Aziz (ABOVE) yesterday criticised Ramli’s decision to hold the Press conference. He said Ramli should not have fought the case in the media but instead, in the court of law.
At the Press conference, also attended by officers from his division, Ramli had, among others, admitted that he was the officer implicated in the ACA probe looking into how he had allegedly amassed millions of ringgit in assets. He lambasted the ACA, accusing it of wrongdoing for leaking details of its investigation, saying that it is an offence under Section 21 (4) of the Anti-Corruption Agency Act. Ramli also replied to the allegations levelled against him, including his becoming a shareholder cum director of a company in
Sabah, and the alleged abuse of power concerning the detention and banishment of a businessman. On the allegation that he had amassed RM27 million, Ramli denied owning that amount, saying that it was exaggerated. Ramli said he had made an official declaration to the ACA on his assets. Ramli’s younger sister Roslina Yusuff, 42, was questioned for three hours at ACA headquarters in Putrajaya yesterday.

= == = and in Ipoh,

An ACA Drama An ACA officer was hurt when a policeman resisted arrest and drew out his gun and a scuffled ensued. In the incident a group of ACA officers went to a petrol Kiok in Pasir Puteh, Ipoh to arrest the Police officer.. He resisted and fled in a motorcycle He was however persuaded to surrender. He is alleged to be involved in corruption when a member of public complained that he asked for money to solve a case

ABOVE & BELOW: The cop who was eventually arrested.

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