Saturday, July 14, 2007

MORE PICS – Nathaniel Tan-PKR Website Admin Remanded 4 days; Held overnight at Dang Wangi Lock-up; Johari: Police Investigates Websites Spreading Lies

ABOVE Poster: Credits to Mob's Crib
Nathaniel Tan PKR's Webmaster was detained & arrested on Friday 13th Jul 2007 & on the next day was produced at the Magistrate court where a remand order was obtained to detain him for 4 days

The breaking news from Malaysiakini was headlined:

Now that the Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Mohd Johari has been cleared of the accusations for RM5M bride taking, he is now flexing his muscles and power asking for his “pound of flesh”. If he can accused the IGP of the bribes charges, what is there to stop him to “punish” those spreading the lies in the websites (see Bernama report dated 14th Jul 07, date stamped 17:43 pm below).

And Nathaniel Tan who dared to publish his offending post on Dec 22 2006 is now being investigated. They cannot find the actual poster in freewebs and since Nat has provided the link in the comment section, is he now held responsible for leaking this OSA document?

And the comment came from


Also according to his sister, they are fishing for information on his appointment as the Exec Secretary to Anwar , Chairperson FoundationForFuture Organisation. FFF has a US400,000 grant waiting for disposal

Nat is being investigated under Section 8 of OSA which covers wrongful communication, etc. of official secret.

(1) If any person having in his possession or control any official secret or any secret official code word, countersign or password which —
(a) relates to or is used in a prohibited place or relates to anything in such a place;
(b) relates to munitions of war and to other apparatus, equipment and machinery which are used in the maintenance of the safety and security of
Malaysia;
(c) has been made or obtained in contravention of this Act;
(d) has been entrusted in confidence to him by any public officer; or
(e) he has made or obtained, or to which he has had access, owing to his position as a person who holds or has held office in the public service, or as a person who holds, or has held a contract made on behalf of the Government, or as a person who is or has been employed by or under a person who holds or has held such an office or contract,
does any of the following:
(i) communicates directly or indirectly any such information or thing to any foreign country other than any foreign country to which he is duly authorized to communicate it, or any person other than a person to whom he is duly authorized to communicate it or to whom it is his duty to communicate it;
(ii) uses any such official secret or thing as aforesaid for the benefit of any foreign country other than any foreign country for whose benefit he is duly authorized to use it, or in any other manner prejudicial to the safety or interests of Malaysia;
(iii) retains in his possession or control any such thing as aforesaid when he has no right to retain it, or when it is contrary to his duty to retain it, or fails to comply with all lawful directions issued by lawful authority with regard to the return or disposal thereof; or
(iv) fails to take reasonable care of, or so conducts himself as to endanger the safety or secrecy of, any such official secret or thing,
he shall be guilty of an offence punishable with imprisonment for a term not less than one year but not exceeding seven years.
(2) If any person receives any official secret or any secret official code word, countersign or password knowing or having reasonable ground to believe at the time when he receives it, that the official secret, code word, countersign or password is communicated to him in contravention of this Act, he shall, unless he proves that the communication to him of the official secret, code word, countersign or password was contrary to his desire, be guilty of an offence punishable with imprisonment for a term not less than one year but not exceeding seven years.

and from elizabethwong.wordpress

This is what Sivarasa Rasiah, the lead counsel for Nat, said outside the courts after the remand hearing:-

“We are revisiting 1998 - this is a political detention.
“The remand serves no purpose except to put him (Nat) under duress. “He has given his full cooperation; they have taken documents, CD-Roms and computers from his office, home and car.
“If the remand is for investigation, why continue to detain him when he has given everything? This is a ‘fishing’ expedition. There is clearly another agenda behind this.
“This is purely an act of oppression. I want to go on record that his detention is political motivated.” Sivarasa also said that the documents and CD-Roms seized from Nat’s home, office and car, were not limited to this so-called investigation but his job as the Secretary to the Chairman of the Foundation for the Future, Anwar Ibrahim.

He added that since the computers and documents were already in the possession of the police, there is no reason to keep him there. “Nat has the legal right to silence. He will not say a word. So to keep him inside is like punishing him.”When asked what was the role of the Bukit Aman’s Cyber-Crime Division, it was said that they were mainly involved in information-mining of Nat’s computers (creeps). The Investigating Officer is DSP Victor, his boss ACP Tn Kamaruddin. Sivarasa also mentioned that the news story which appeared in The Star today is “false and malicious”. (I wish to add - ditto for Sin Chew’s frontpage news) which reported that Nat was arrested over the photoshopped work - “French Dinner for Three”. Sivarasa said they will consider seeking a revision on Monday. He also said that Nat is in good spirits but there’s no drinking water available in the lockup, so he has to resort to drinking tap water.= == = = ==

= == = = Saturday July 14, 2007 Nathaniel Tan remanded for four days under OSA

By ANDREW SAGAYAM ; STAR

KUALA LUMPUR: Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) information bureau staff Nathaniel Tan, 27, has been remanded for four days under the Official secrets Act (OSA). Tan, who is also secretary of Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim's Foundation for Future, is believed to been remanded under the Section 8 of the OSA over allegations that he had documents linked to Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Johari Baharom's alleged involvement in corruption.

Deputy Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Mohd Najib Abd Aziz confirmed the arrest and remand. He said that the case was being investigated by the Federal Commercial Crimes department but declined to comment further when asked on the nature of the probe. Tan, who maintains the opposition party's website was arrested from his office in Phileo Damansara on Friday evening by three Special Branch policemen from Bukit Aman. Police sources said the Cyber Crime Unit at the Federal Commercial Crimes department headquarters in Jalan Dato Onn was questioning Tan.

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Police Asked To Investigate Websites Spreading Lies


JITRA, July 14 (Bernama) -- Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Mohd Johari Baharom (ABOVE) who himself was slandered on the Internet that he had taken bribes, wants the Police to initiate investigations to trace writers spreading lies through websites. He said that he had instructed the Police's Commercial Crimes Investigation Department (CCID) to undertake the investigations and bring the culprits to book. "Now all kinds of slander about the nation's leaders are being spread through the Internet. The Police must act to prevent them from tarnishing the image of the country," he told reporters after the opening of the delegates meetings of the Wanita, Youth and Puteri wings of Kubang Pasu Umno here today. Umno Information Chief Tan Sri Muhammad Muhd Taib graced the function. On Wednesday, Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail ordered the Anti-Corruption Agency to close investigations into the bribery allegations against Johari as there was no evidence to link him to accusations that he had received RM5 million to release several suspected criminals who had been held under the Emergency Ordinance 1969. The investigations were initiated after the allegations against him were posted on an anonymous website. Johari, who is also the Member of Parliament for Kubang Pasu and the head of its Umno division, said he thanked God that the truth had prevailed and was relieved the episode was over. He said now he could fully concentrate on his government duties and also prepare for the upcoming general election. "I also received many SMSes (on the short-messaging-service) from Kubang Pasu Umno members voicing their support for me. It gave me added strength to weather the challenging period (corruption allegations) in my life," he added.

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Nation, STAR, Saturday July 14, 2007

Anwar’s aide held over doctored DPM pictures

PETALING JAYA: An aide of Parti Keadilan Rakyat adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was arrested, believed to be in connection with a doctored picture of Deputy Prime Minister which was posted on the Internet. Lawyer Latheefa Koya said three police officers took Nathaniel Tan away from his office at Phileo Damansara here at 4.45pm yesterday. “Tan was asked to follow the officers to Bukit Aman for questioning. He was also asked to bring along his laptop,” she said when met at Bukit Aman. She and several party leaders including information chief Tian Chua were at the police headquarters to enquire about Tan’s arrest. Latheefa said police did not give any reasons for his arrest.
Tan is a prominent blogger and also in-charge of PKR’s website. A statement issued by PKR said Tan was a Harvard University graduate and was active in non-government organisations. It said he was Anwar’s secretary in the Foundation for Future.
Police could not be reached for comment.
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UPDATE on his Remandfirst hand account from his sister Cheryl website H E R E

i think the parents and i are going to try to go visit the brother soon ish. not sure though. li tsin went home to get stuff and blog i think.
um my brain is really fuzzy right now and i don’t actually understand a lot of what’s going on, so i’m just trying to relay the information la.
so…recapping everything… we went to the courtroom and entered through the Orang Kena Tuduh entrance and were rudely pushed out. we saw nat with latheefa and sivarasa. eventually we were let in again. the magistrate woman was dealing with another twenty or so orange baju people who i guess were also being remanded. this was probably not long after the lawyers had first been given access to nat at all. a sneaky cop fellow sat down behind us (on the bench in front of them) and eavesdropped. mr uthayakumar asked him to go but he didn’t want to so then mr u started scolding him. then the magistrate woman got damn pissed at him for like interrupting and not going straight to her etc etc. she was just in a really pissy mood all day la. maybe cos she had to work on saturday, or cos there were lawyers intervening (oh got story about that too).
then she left to make a phone call. when she came back in, she suddenly was like public all get out…shrug, okay… so we sat outside and waited la..waited waited..
so, it transpired that actually latheefa and sivarasa didn’t even know that nat was there! the police or whoever totally neglected to tell them (maybe the time of the hearing had been changed cos it was originally 4.30 right) even though they knew that pkr was representing nat. they sort of sneakily snuck him in and tried to get away with not telling the lawyers, it is suspected. luckily, the uthayakumar dude happened to be there for another remanding, saw nat in handcuffs and realized what was going on. he called the other lawyers and they RUSHED to jalan duta.
so there were photographers and bloggers and party members just waiting around outside, talking. wondering what was going on. i think there were some interesting things said, but i can’t quite recall them now. i blogged every other thing that happened la, though.
then a couple of hours later, the lawyers came out and told us the results. apparently if we had been quicker to get there we would have seen nat too, and some of the photographers managed to get a shot.
then my dad’s phone decided to screw me and freeze so i lost like almost all my blogging information!!!! but this is besides the point
okay, so. nat’s been remanded for four days, although the cops asked for the max, fourteen. if i’m not mistaken they actually don’t have any cause whatsoever to hold him even for that amount of time. whatever it is they want to investigate is in nat’s computer (and possibly his monitor cos they took that too) and his cd roms and laptop or whatever, because he’s going to exercise his right to remain silent and he doesn’t have to tell them anything. they already seized all his crap, what do they need him there for?
the justification that they gave, i think, is that it’s very technical so they need to hold him for questioning. i think they may even have mentioned like forensics or some such rubbish. …….ya……. but that’s not his job, so why should they be able to keep him?
the charge he is ‘helping them to investigate’ definitely has to do with johari baharum. read the supposedly official secret document here . anyway, they’re trying to get nat for publishing the Official Secret Document. but he didn’t even publish the whole thing. plus its available on the actual author’s site, and i’m sure many many others. so it’s a very flimsy excuse la in other words.
sivarasa dude said a few things. he says that the detainment is entirely political, designed to put nat under duress and scare people. they have no cause to keep him for four days, so there must be a prawn at the back of the stone. he also said that they’re just trying to pry him for information and are picking on him mostly because he is new. they are fishing for information.

speculation in general is that this has to do with foundation for the future. this is what takes up most of nat’s time these days. perhaps they think that there is lots of confidential stuff about FFF in nat’s monitor.

i think that’s about it for now. if i remember anything else i’ll post it. i think we should be going to see him soon, although it might be getting kind of late. li tsin is moving in for a few days, i think. :D

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BACKGROUND: On his arrest

Nathaniel is a 27 year old graduate from Harvard University.was recruited by his good friend Tian Chua to work under KeADILan’s Information Bureau. And Last month, he was appointed as the Executive Secretary for the chairperson of the Foundation for the Future (FFF), Anwar Ibrahim. Nat Tan was arrested at around 4.30 pm on Friday the 13th.July 2007. Nathaniel, who is a PKR information bureau staff, also helps maintain the party's website. He was considered ‘missing’ for almost 6 hours, until the police finally admitted they had him in their custody at about 10.30pm

His last post was also pertaining to Johari:

Our police force is now operating like Gestapo. Their priority is not combating crime to protect citizens’ safety, instead they act promptly and speedily to defend the oppressive regime. Johari vs. Musa: Law Enforcers Squabble, Criminals Roam Free

Posted on July 11th, 2007 by nathaniel tan

He is unlikely to be free today as he was now taken to the Jalan Duta Remand Court (Saturday, 1.00pm) for remand hearings according to his sisters Blog posting at 12.26pm

First hand account by Eng Kiat, who was with him during arrest, report via Tian’s Blog

Eng Kiat who is working with Nat as a part-time journalist for our website recalls the incident of arrest:

“At 4.40pm this evening, three Malay men knocked on Yayasan Aman’s (Unit G801 Pusat Dagangan Phileo Damansara 1, Jalan 16/11, 46350 Petaling Jaya) glass door, which was not locked, and I (seated adjacent to the door) motioned for them to come in.One of them requested for Nathaniel Tan, “Siapa Nathaniel Tan?”. Upon which Nathaniel stood up and identified himself.

The same person explained that they were police, “Kami polis”, but no proof of identification was offered, and requested for Nathaniel’s identification card. Upon checking and recording his particulars, he told Nat to cooperate and follow them. At the same time, a second officer asked for my Identification Card, which I promptly took out, and recorded my Name, IC number, and Address. He also asked for the office address, and wrote it down below my particulars.Meanwhile, the leader who recorded Nathaniel’s information asked Nathaniel to cooperate and follow them because they “wanted to talk”. “Tolong bekerjasama dan ikut kami sekejap, kami nak cakap sedikit.”

Hesitantly, Nathaniel asked them what the matter was about, and got the reply “Nak cakap tentang Internet.” The man insisted Nathaniel followed them but Nathaniel asked why they couldn’t just talk at the office. The man reiterated that Nathaniel should cooperate and follow them. The man then asked Nathaniel whether he owned the laptop he was working on, to which Nathaniel said yes, and was then asked to switch it off.

“Tolong tutup komputer dan bawa sekali.” Nathaniel then packed up. I asked the leader if this was an arrest, but they said “Bukan, hanya nak siasat sedikit.” Nathaniel then started following them out, and Encik Ismail (the office manager of Yayasan Aman) then came out from the back (his room is at the back portion of the office), and the Policemen asked him a few questions, which I did not hear. Nathaniel then followed them out and into the elevators. I then called Tian Chua to inform him. From Eng Kiat’s description of the situation, Nat was clearly not informed of his reason of arrest. The police officers lied that no arrest was made, but later at night we found that Nat was held in IPD Dang Wangi lock-up.”


ABOVE & BELOW: The candle light vigil for Nat Tan at Bukit Aman lklst night

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ABOVE Tian Chua, PHR Info chief and BELOW: PKR Youth Chief Shamsul ISkandar Addreresing the supporters keeping a vigil to free Nat

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July 08, 2007 16:27 PM PKR Practises Unethical Politics, Says Najib

BUTTERWORTH, July 8 (Bernama) -- Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak has described Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) as a party that practises unethical politics by concocting malicious stories to defame national leaders.

The Deputy Prime Minister said he himself as well as Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had been victims of untrue, vicious stories. "They are so bent on connecting me (with a case), that they even came up with a doctored photograph of me," Najib said when opening the delegates' meeting of the Batu Kawan Umno division here.

He did not elaborate on the photograph but on Friday, PKR Information chief Tian Chua admitted creating and posting a doctored photograph showing Najib with a woman said to be part-time Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu (before her murder) on his blogsite and refused to apologise for his action.
"This is unethical politics. In whatever we do, we must have ethics. We must not simply accuse others of wrongdoing when we knowingly commit the same mistake. Eventually, everybody will know, and I believe even the rural folk know," Najib said. He also criticised its (PKR) top leaders who quit Umno due to personal problems and not on the question of party or government policies.
"What were they doing when they were in Umno? Why did they quit Umno? When hey've quit, suddenly everything about Umno is not right to them," said Najib. The Umno deputy president said he regarded their actions as being inconsistent and unprincipled.
"We must have principles in politics, but these people are singing a different tune from when they were in UMNO." Najib said Umno had been recognised internationally as a democratic party accepted by the component parties in the Barisan Nasional (BN) as the backbone of the government, while PKR since recently had been trying to take over that role.

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July 08, 2007 19:53 PM

Be Prepared In Tackling Opposition's Unbecoming Tactics - Hishammuddin

KUALA LUMPUR, July 8 (Bernama) -- The opposition's rude actions in demeaning national leaders must be curtailed, Umno Youth chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said today. He said Umno Youth must be prepared for this as it was not impossible for the unbecoming actions to continue. "This shows that they (opposition) are desperate. Umno Youth will compile all their transgressions and expose them to the public," he told reporters here after opening the Gombak Umno division's Youth delegates' meeting here. Hishammuddin was reacting to the action by Parti Keadilan Rakyat information chief Tian Chua who last Friday admitted doctoring and posting a photograph on his blog to show Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak together with part-time Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu. The doctored picture also showed the two with political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda who is now on trial for abetting the murder of Altantuya in October last year.
Tian refused to apologise and retract the picture, claiming it was merely a fantasy and work of art Meanwhile, Umno Youth deputy head Khairy Jamaluddin has described Tian Chua's action as a tactic to cover up the mounting troubles in PKR. Khairy said the opposition would resort to dirty strategies and tactics to attack government party leaders to hide their own weaknesses.
"So he (Tian Chua) did something sensational, which is baseless and malicious. If he does not apologise for his action, we will respond at the political front," he said to reporters after opening the Bukit Bintang Umno division's delegates' conference here.

Khairy said the Barisan Nasional (BN), in particular Umno, would not resort to "gangster" politics as the answer to the arrogant actions of opposition leaders, but would instead use the proper channels in facing them.
"The proper arena is the general election, the by-elections and parliament, and not by taking cheap shots at individuals through the Internet, or resort to cheap politics and other unbecoming actions. It's wrong. So, we will ensure that that there will be no place for Tian Chua and other PKR leaders to legitimise their actions," he added.
In RANAU, Umno Youth executive council member Datuk Mukhriz Tun Mahathir called on Tian Chua to apologise openly to Najib and Umno for putting up the doctored photograph.

He said Umno Youth objected strongly to his action which was aimed at tarnishing the image of Umno and nation's leaders. "We want Tian Chua to apologise, otherwise action should be taken against him," Mukhriz told Bernama after opening the Ranau Umno Youth delegates' conference today. He said the opposition was now running out of issues and hence, resorted to spreading false or malicious stories to gain the people's support.
Umno Supreme Council member Datuk Seri Idris Jusoh also agreed that the opposition had run out of ideas and so had to use the Internet to attack Umno leaders. Idris, who is also Terengganu Menteri Besar, suggested that Umno Youth act fast to counter the false allegations made by the opposition. He had earlier opened the Cheras Umno division's delegates' conference.

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July 06, 2007 18:19 PM

Bernama Admits Error In Naming Website On Super-imposed Pix

KUALA LUMPUR, July 6 (Bernama) -- Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) did not carry on its official website any photograph purported to portray the Deputy Prime Minister being flanked by a woman who looked like Altantuya Shaariibuu, the part-time Mongolian model who has been murdered, and political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda. BERNAMA had inadvertently in a July 4 news report, headlined "PKR Leader Criticised For Deriding National Leader", indicated that the photograph was carried on the PKR website when it was actually posted on a website belonging to a leader of that party. We apologise for the error.

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July 05, 2007 17:42 PM

Tian Chua Admits Responsibility For Publishing Fake Photo
KUALA LUMPUR, July 5 (Bernama) -- Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) information head Tian Chua has refused to apologise for publishing the fake photograph linking Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak to Altantuya Shaaribuu in his web blog.
He admitted that the photograph which he had created personally was merely fantasy and a work of art but insisted that he would not retract the photograph nor apologise to anyone.
"I did it myself and it was not done professionally. If there had been such a dinner, that is how it will be perceived. The woman in the photograph was not the real Altantuya," he told reporters at the PKR office, here.
Yesterday, several members of Parliament had lambasted a PKR leader for deriding a national leader by publishing the fake photograph of Najib being flanked by the murdered Mongolian woman, Altantuya, and political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda.
The members of parliament, when met at the Parliament lobby, said the antics of the PKR leader concerned in publishing the `superimposed' photograph of Najib were despicable and shameful.

Asked whether the police had called him up concerning the matter, Tian Chua replied "not yet", and considered that what he had done was not an offence where action could be taken.

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2007/07/09
Chua: It’s not an issue

KUALA LUMPUR: Parti Keadilan Rakyat information chief Tian Chua said he would not respond to demands by Barisan Nasional leaders that he withdraw and apologise over a doctored photograph posted on his blog. "They have a right to differ with me and I also have a right to have a different opinion from theirs," he said yesterday. He said he did not understand why the "caricature" had become an issue. However, a visit to Tian Chua’s website revealed that even his blog readers criticised the posting of the obviously superimposed picture of Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak with Abdul Razak Baginda and a woman. "Just bite the bullet and apologise. If Najib plays this right, he will not even sue you (of which you will definitely lose), and be seen as the bigger man," one reader said.

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July 02, 2007 23:56 PM
Mainstream Media Still The Best Channel - Najib

KUALA LUMPUR, July 2 (Bernama) -- The mainstream media is still the best channel for the government to relay information and messages including on the role of the Malaysian Defence Forces and the national defence policy.
The mainstream media's role, however, had become more challenging with the emergence of alternative media through the internet, Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said here tonight.

"The alternative media, via blogsites, report many things that can be disputed because nobody knows the person behind the news. This is where the mainstream media is special," he said at the Defence Media Awards Night.
Najib who is Defence Minister said the media could disseminate information on the importance of national security and defence to the people especially when the awareness on security was sometimes at its lows.
He said that to face the competition with the alternative media, the mainstream media had to publish coverage based on accurate facts and convincing news.
The Defence Media Awards were dominated by Utusan Malaysia that won the best newspaper award and best journalist award through Hamden Ramli.
Other recipients were Mohd Fuad Md Nor (best magazine journalist), Raja Faizal Raja Hisham Shah of The Star (best photographer) and TV3 (best television coverage).
The winners received RM4,000 and a trophy and certificate each


Friday, July 13, 2007

MORE PICS & Video – Day 18-Altantuya Murder Trial; DSP KUMAR: Explosives Details; No Training in C4; Accused Not Skilled in Explosives; CCTV Footages

Day 18 Video Clip loaded..

In yesterday's trial, witness DSP Sri Kumar said C4 was not available in UTK (but maybe from Mindef). The explosives used and stored in the UTK store included
PE, Cutting Liner Charge (CLC), detonating or det cord, detonator and sound devices like flash bang.
Enhanced Images (see near bottom) of the crime scene taken on Nov 7 2006 show no crater (CLC not used); then was it just hand grenades that was used?

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ABOVE: Abdul Razak's family members waiting & hoping to get a glimpse of him passing through and going back on Day 18 of Trial and BELOW: the moment they were waiting for


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ABOVE & BELOW: The hooded first two accused arriving in Court on Day 18; looks like Azilah above and Sirul below

As usual Malaysiakini has the early news on Thursday, 12th July 07

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Training officer questioned on unused explosives

DAY 18

SHAH ALAM (July 12, 2007): A training officer with the Police Special Action Unit (UTK) told the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial there was no possibility of unused explosives being taken away after a training session supervised by him.

However, DSP M.V. Sri Kumar (ABOVE) said he could not answer on behalf of other trainers. DPP Noorin Badaruddin had asked Sri Kumar if there was such a possibility and the answer was that normally, the training officer would have to return the unused explosives.

Judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin: Is that the answer to the question?
Noorin: My question was, if there was a balance, was there a possibility of it being taken?
Sri Kumar: The amount returned will not tally with the amount taken.
Noorin: What is your answer, is there a possibility or not?
Sri Kumar: If under my supervision, not at all.
Noorin: If under other people's supervision, is there a possibility?
Lawyer Hazman Ahmad, representing accused Chief Insp Azilah Hadri objected, but Noorin said it was relevant.
Mohd Zaki then told Sri Kumar that if he did not know he could say he had no knowledge.
Sri Kumar: I cannot answer for others.
The UTK officer also told the court Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar and Azilah had only undergone basic training, which included arms and explosives training. He said the duo had not gone for specialist training on explosives but he was not aware if they had undergone other training using explosives during the in-service training.

ABOVE: An artist impression of the court during DSP Sri Kumar's testimony

Sri Kumar, who joined the UTK in 1992, had attended basic bomb disposal training in the marine base in Bakri, Muar, in 1994, explosives incident counter measure training in the United States in 1997 and high-risk defensive bomb search at the marine base in Tampoi, Johor.

He said the UTK used plastic explosives, cutting linear charge (CLC), detonating cord, detonator and some sound devices named Flash Bang.
Asked by Noorin if C4 (composition four) explosives are used in the UTK, Sri Kumar said no.
As he went on to explain about the explosives and Noorin went into more details on how an explosion is carried out, Mohd Zaki quipped: "Is this important? Looks like we are undergoing a basic theory training on explosives."

Noorin asked if Sirul Azhar and Azilah had in the past been frozen from duty, Sri Kumar replied they have not.
Lawyer Ahmad Zaidi Zainal, representing Sirul Azhar, asked Sri Kumar if he knew the plastic explosives were available commercially, like in the quarry. He said quarries used dynamites.
Mohd Zaki asked who else in the police force used explosives, Sri Kumar said the bomb disposal unit and the general operations force (GOF) used it.
When Ahmad Zaidi asked if a crater would be created if CLC is used on the ground, Sri Kumar said it would.Re-examined by Noorin, who asked if a crater would be created if an object was placed under the CLC, he said it would depend on the type of object. He said if a metal sheet was placed underneath the CLC, no crater would be formed after it was exploded.

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Court to view CCTV recordings on Monday
SHAH ALAM (July 12, 2007): The High Court will on Monday (July 16) view close-circuit television (CCTV) recordings taken in Hotel Malaya to determine who had entered the premises before Altantuya Shaariibuu was murdered.
DPP Tun Abdul Majid Tun Hamzah said they had arranged for the CCTV recordings to be viewed in court as the monitoring room at the hotel is too small to accommodate all of them. The recordings were taken by 20 CCTVs fitted in the hotel located on Jalan Hang Lekiu in
Kuala Lumpur, the place that Altantuya stayed with her friends until she went missing.

Hotel Malaya operations manager Loo Mow Chan (ABOVE) told the court Altantuya checked into the hotel on Oct 9 and was given room 817 but she later changed rooms several times.

Loo, who was in charge of the CCTV room which monitored the recordings, said the CCTVs were located in the lobby, near lift entrances, from the 3rd to the 9th floors, coffee house and conference room lobby of the 11-storey building.
The images captured are visible from his office using three monitors.

Loo said the images are recorded on a tape which is kept in his office for 30 days after which the tape is reused. Each of the 31 tapes contains a 24-hour recording and is labelled according to date and time. The tapes are changed at midnight daily. Questioned by DPP Manoj Kurup on who maintained the CCTV system, he said it was the supplier. He said the system was in working order on Oct 9, 8 and 19. He said the tape recorded date and time automatically, and that he did not key in the information. Responding to questions from Manoj, he said that on Nov 10, one Sgt Amran Ab Aziz came to his office asking for tapes containing CCTV recordings for Oct 8, 18 and 19. "I passed him the three tapes," said Loo.
Asked if Amran had taken anything else, he said: "The guest folio for Room 821."
In May, another two police officers, identified by Loo as Tuan Tony (ASP Tony Lunggan) and Tuan Amidon (Supt Amidon Anan), met him in his office, together with a cameraman. Asked what they wanted, Loo replied: "They wanted some pictures from the CCTV system, they wanted me to play the tapes so that they could take pictures from the screen." They brought along three tapes which they had taken earlier, he told the court. Loo was later asked to identify eight pictures which the two police officers had taken and the locations in the pictures, which he did. Asked which date the images were taken from, he said Oct 18, and the time was between
4.54pm and 5pm.
(According to the charge sheet, Altantuya was murdered between
10pm on Oct 19 and 1am on Oct 20
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July 12, 2007 23:04 PM

Azilah, Sirul Azhar Were Never Relieved Of UTK Duties - Sri Kumar
SHAH ALAM, July 12 (Bernama) -- Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar, the first and second accused in the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu, were never relieved of their duties as Special Action Force (UTK) operatives, a UTK training officer testified Thursday. DSP M.V. Sri Kumar told the murder trial that Azilah, 30, and Sirul Azhar, 35, would be relieved of their duties only if they had failed in the monthly physical, shooting skills and swimming tests or had continuously skipped training while in service. UTK operatives are considered experienced and knowledgeable the longer they served in the force and underwent a lot of training, said Sri Kumar, 41, who joined the UTK on
June 20 1992, on the 18th day of the high-profile trial.

Questioned by DPP Noorin Badaruddin whether a UTK operative with long service and had never been relieved of duties showed he was consistent in his performance, he said: "Yes, in all fields of training, including in handling firearms." Azilah, 30, and Sirul Azhar, 35, are charged with murdering Altantuya, 28, between 10pm on Oct 19 and 1am on Oct 20 last year while political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda, 46, is accused of abetting them. Earlier, Sri Kumar, told the High Court that policemen and police officers were required to attend an interview before they were picked for a two-week initial selection test. The successful candidates would then undergo a three-month basic training, he said.

It was during the basic training that they would be exposed to handling of bombs and other weapons. After completing the basic training, they would be absorbed into the force and would undergo in-service training under their respective unit heads. Saying that explosives were not used in all in-service training, he said there was a possibility that Azilah and Sirul Azhar underwent the training (handling explosives under their respective heads). He said unit leaders would decide whom to collect and return the explosives to the armoury after they are used for in-service trainings. The UTK has stringent conditions to take out explosives from the armoury, he added.

The trial resumes on Monday.
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July 12, 2007 19:18 PM
Azilah Was Never Instructed To Perform Detonations, Says Witness
SHAH ALAM, July 12 (Bernama) -- Chief Insp Azilah Hadri, the first accused in the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu, was never instructed to perform detonations in any operation since his service with the Special Action Force (UTK) four years ago, the High Court here was told Thursday. DSP M.V. Sri Kumar, 41, training officer of the UTK, said Azilah did not have the skill to breach explosives and only experts were allowed to do the job. Sri Kumar, the prosecutions' 16 witness, said the second accused, Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar, who is also a UTK member, also did not have the skill to handle explosives. They only had basic training in handling explosives when they joined the UTK but they could have undergone training in explosives at other times during their service, he said. During basic training, they were exposed to the handling of explosives under the supervision of a team leader, he added.

ABOVE & BELOW: The gist of DSP Sri Kumar's Testimony on Day 18

Sri Kumar, who joined the UTK on June 20 1992, was testifying under cross-examination by Azilah's counsel, Hazman Ahmad on the 18th day of the trial.
Azilah, 30, and Sirul Azhar, 35, are charged with murdering Altantuya, 28, between
10pm on Oct 19 and 1am on Oct 20 last year while political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda, 46, is accused of abetting them.
Earlier, when examined by deputy public prosecutor Noorin Badaruddin, Sri Kumar said that during basic training, after completing the theory which covered explosives, wiring and safety, the trainees would be taken to the bombing range and given some explosives to detonate before a trainer.

Noorin: During operations who decides gets the explosives?
Sri Kumar: The respective team leaders would choose the trainees who would handle the explosives and the type of explosives to bring along.
Noorin: What is the procedure after training or an operation involving explosives ends?
Sri Kumar: When all the explosives are used up, it ends there. If there is any left over, the officer who filled the form or the personnel who took out the explosives should return them to the store.

Asked whether the group members could take away any leftover explosives or accessories without anyone's knowledge, he said that if the officer requested 500gm of plastic explosive, for example, and did not use it, then the amount returned to the store must be 500gm.
He said that if the explosives had been used and there was excess, it should be returned to the store.
"For plastic explosives of PE, they are not taken in their raw form during operations. Normally they are shaped before they are taken for operations.
"So the officer supervising the explosives will take the shaped charge for the operation. If it's not used, the shaped charge will be returned to the store in the same shape," he said.
Sri Kumar said that during training and operations under his supervision, there was no possibility of loss of explosives, "not even a single bit". However, he was not sure whether losses occurred under the supervision of other officers. Earlier, the court was told of the types of explosives used by the UTK and how they function. Justice Mohd Zaki Md Yasin even commented that today's session was like "learning the theory of explosives". Sri Kumar said the explosives used and stored in the UTK store included PE, Cutting Liner Charge (CLC), detonating or det cord, detonator and sound devices like flash bang. On the C4 explosive, he said it was a composition of four substances but was not available at the UTK
Asked whether any of the explosives could be detonated without the help of accessories he said that only the detonator could blow up by itself. Sri Kumar said the PE found in the UTK was like plasticine, pink in colour and packed in 500gm slabs like butter and could be could be easily shaped with the hand.

He said that except for the flash bang (which only let out a sound) the others were categorised as high explosives with speed of 1000-9000m per second.
He added that the claymore mine wire was a explosive which could be detonated with a electrical charge, including from a car battery with 12 volt power source.

Throughout Sri Kumar's testimony, Azilah and Sirul Azhar were listening attentively. When Noorin asked about the quantity of PE needed to blow up an object like a door or grille, Sri Kumar said: "It depends on the door or grille and the degree of explosion. It is enough to break a solid wooden door with only 100gm." He said a detonator must be used because it was the life of the explosion and for a more effective explosion, if the PE was insufficient, CLC could be used to add strength. "A wire will be used for safety purposes.

ABOVE & BELOW: Enhanced Images of the crime scene taken on Nov 7 2006. Any crater form? C4 was not used in UTK and CLC not used (no crater); then was it just hand grenades that was used?

It is connected to the fuse. Under cross-examination by Sirul Azhar's counsel, Ahmad Zaidi Zainal, on whether the military also used the explosives used by the UTK, Sri Kumar said: "They are also used in other units of the Royal Malaysia Police like the bomb disposal squad and the general forces team but I don't know whether they are used in the military." On the effect of CLC if detonated above ground, he said it would form a crater and if the CLC was directed towards the earth, then it would head earthwards but the power of the explosion was spread overall. He said CLC must be used together with a detonator and the wire must be connected to a clicker and after the explosion, the wire near the CLC could be shattered and frayed but the end far away from it would be intact.

ABOVE : Lead DPP Tun Abdul Majid leaving Court on Day 18 Trial and BELOW: the van WPP5670 coming out of the Courst basement car parktaking the accused back to Sungei Buloh prison for the weekend rest

The hearing continues (on Monday, 16th Jul 07).

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Thursday, July 12, 2007

MORE PICS & Video – Day 17 –Altantuya Murder Trial; Sirul took MP5 Sub-Machine Gun (4-30 Oct 06); Bullets returned–NO Records; Drinks then Arrest


Malaysiakini news released on same day at 2.57pm. Be the first to know. The electronic media is giving this trial coverage now "2nd class" treatment- usually at the 2nd part of the bulletin or at the end. Who is orchestrating this order? If Not MMC then it must the the 4th Floor boys!
Abdul Razak's Missing Lap top - why it was so hard to find? An expensive item and in daily used. Why do you think they went on a wild goose chase to locate it and giving all the red herrings? Well someone was busy going through it and getting rid of any incriminating data. Perhaps there were some photos and some strayed emails and whatnots. It was finally retrived from "his car" parked at the office and handed over by his wife Mazlinda. Believe it or not! = == = == == = == == = == = == = ==


Razak served us drinks: Cop

R. Surenthira Kumar and Maria J. Dass; from S U N - Updated: 08:50PM Wed, 11 Jul 2007;
DAY 17

ABOVE: DSP Lim given the "dirty job" to arrest Baginda but instead had a refreshment treat from the hungry remanded Abdul Razak

SHAH ALAM (July 11, 2007): Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda served refreshments to the eight policemen who arrived in his office to arrest him on the morning of Nov 7, the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial heard today. DSP Lim Meng Seah (ABOVE), who led the arresting team, drew laughter when he admitted his men had refreshments while Abdul Razak had his breakfast. There were more red faces when he admitted under cross-examination that they were served refreshments again when the team brought Abdul Razak back to his office to look for other items two days later.

Lim said during cross-examination by Abdul Razak's lawyer, Wong Kian Kheong, that Abdul Razak did not resist arrest and had cooperated with the police. Lim and the seven men, consisting of detectives and uniformed personnel, went to the Malaysian Strategic Research Centre office on the 10th floor of Bangunan Lembaga Getah Asli Malaysia and entered after asking his staff if Abdul Razak was in. After identifying himself and showing his authority card to Abdul Razak, Lim told Abdul Razak he was there to arrest him for investigations into the murder of Altantuya.
Wong: You said you went to his office without informing him, agree?
Lim: Agree.

Wong: On Nov 7, 2006, Abdul Razak did not resist when he was arrested, agree?
Lim: Agree.
Wong: As a senior police officer, do you know that an arrested person has the right to remain silent?
Lim: Yes.

Wong: After his arrest, Abdul Razak continued to answer your questions when you asked him about the numbers to the two handphones belonging to him which you seized from him and recorded in the search list?
Lim: Yes.
Wong: Agree he cooperated fully with you and your team?
Lim: Agree.
Lim, who is with the Kuala Lumpur police contingent headquarters' serious crime division (D9), admitted they were served refreshments by Abdul Razak when his team arrived to pick him up. The court burst into laughter upon hearing Lim's reply.
He became more embarrassed when Wong asked if refreshments were again served to him and his team, when Abdul Razak was taken to his office on Nov 9 to look for other items.
Wong: During the visit to Abdul Razak's father's house, drinks were served, agree?
Lim: Disagree.
Wong: The third accused (Abdul Razak) cooperated when visiting his father's house?
Lim: Yes.
Later, during re-examination by DPP Manoj Kurup, Lim explained that when they went to arrest Abdul Razak, he and his team were served refreshments because the political analyst claimed he had not had breakfast and was allowed to do so.
On the second visit, Lim said, Abdul Razak again had his breakfast in his office when he was brought there from the lock-up because he had not had breakfast in the lock-up.
Judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin asked if breakfast was not served to Abdul Razak, and Lim replied he did not have it.

The courtroom was again filled with laughter when Mohd Zaki said one can eat again even after one had had breakfast. Before that, Lim told the court he was instructed by DSP Gan Teck Guan to arrest Abdul Razak. He said that during the second visit to his office, Abdul Razak handed over four Hotel Malaya memos, containing notes allegedly written by Altantuya and which were dropped in his office by the Mongolian after she failed to meet him in his office.

Lim said he read the memos and recalled some of the words to the court: "You love money or love your life "and "I came with my father wait for you outside".He said in addition to the handphones, they seized two laptop computers, and the visitor's registration book from the building security guard. One of the computers was handed over to him by Abdul Razak's wife, Mazlinda Makhzan, after the police team failed to find it in Abdul Razak's father's house when the political analyst was taken there to look for it.

Lim said Abdul Razak's parents, wife, daughter and lawyer Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah were in the house, and they told police the computer could be in the car belonging to Abdul Razak which was parked in his office building. Lim said Abdul Razak's family told them they would retrieve the computer and hand it over to the police. The item was later given to investigating officer ASP Tony Lunggan.

Two policewomen who are colleagues of the prosecution star witness L/Cpl Rohaniza Roslan testified today. They are colleagues of Rohaniza in the Petaling Jaya district police headquarters' anti-vice, secret society and gambling division.

* Constable Azura Azwa Abdul Kadir (ABOVE) told DPP Hanim Rashid that Rohaniza had asked her on Oct 31 which police station was busier - Travers or Brickfields - and she had replied Brickfields.
* L/Cpl Leena Asing (ABOVE) testified that Rohaniza speed-dialled the Brickfields district police headquarters on Oct 31 and asked if any report of missing persons, sudden death report (SDR) or body found had been lodged.
Just before lunch break, the prosecution called Loo Mow Chan, Hotel Malaya's operations manager, to testify.

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'Cpl Sirul took MP 5 (silencer) sub-machine gun from UTK armoury'

SHAH ALAM (July 11, 2007): Murder accused Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar had taken a MP 5 (silencer) sub-machine gun from the Special Action Unit (UTK) armoury on Oct 4 and returned it on Oct 30, the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial was told today.


UTK armoury operative PC Fatimah Abdul Wahab, 30 (ABOVE) , said Sirul Azhar was given 60 bullets for the firearm but returned them all. Questioned by DPP Manoj Kurup in the examination-in-chief, she said she knew that Sirul Azhar had returned all the bullets on Oct 30 - even though the records were blank on this detail - because she had counted the bullets. Earlier, the court was told of the entry in the "outgoing and incoming weapons register" which indicated that Sirul Azhar had obtained the gun from the armoury.
The register stated that he took the sub-machine gun at 2pm on Oct 4 and returned it at 8.15am on Oct 30. The records stated he took out the weapon for special duty. Asked what "special duty" was, Fatimah said she did not know. She said it was recorded as special duty based on a support letter from Sirul Azhar's superior - which is needed before weapons are released. However, she could not remember the superior's name.

When Manoj asked why the column in the register, which states how many bullets Sirul Azhar had taken and returned was left blank, Fatimah said: "I may have been busy, it's my mistake, I forgot to write it down." Judge Mohd Zaki Md Yasin then pointed out that of the 60 columns in the book, only 12 had details of the number of bullets taken and returned. Fatimah told the court it was a norm for those on armoury duty not to record the number of bullets taken and returned, and that she was not the only one who failed to do so.

She said a UTK operative cannot take out weapons from the armoury for others, unless it is for special duties, operation, or for practice purposes. Fatimah said: "Bullets are provided according to the weapon taken." She said 60 bullets are provided for MP5 and 24 for Glocks and Brownings pistols. Fatimah told the court that the procedure of giving and returning weapons was similar for all divisions in the police force. However, she was not aware of written regulations on the right procedure as she only followed what had been done by her seniors.
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Food, drinks, then arrest
SHAH ALAM (July 11, 2007): Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda served refreshments to the eight policemen who arrived in his office to arrest him on the morning of Nov 7, the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial heard today. DSP Lim Meng Seah, who is assigned to the Kuala Lumpur police contingent's serious crime division and who led the team on that day, drew laughter when he admitted his men had refreshments while Abdul Razak had his breakfast. There were more red faces when he admitted under cross-examination that they again were served refreshments when the team brought Abdul Razak back to his office to look for other items two days after the arrest.
To questions from the defence, Lim said Abdul Razak:
* did not resist arrest and had cooperated with the police;
* continued to answer Lim's questions although an arrested person has the right to remain silent;

Other testimony:
* Abdul Razak handed over four Hotel Malaya memos, containing notes allegedly written by Altantuya which were dropped in his office after she failed to meet him in his office.
Lim read two of them: "Love money or love your life", and "I came with my father wait for you outside".

Another witness, special action force armoury storekeeper PC Fatimah Abdul Wahab testified that murder accused Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar had taken a MP5 sub-machine gun on Oct 4 and returned it on Oct 30. She said she remembered that he took two magazines containing a total of 60 bullets, although this was not recorded in the record book.
What happened yesterday (Day 17)
* Two policewomen, who are colleagues of prosecution witness L/Cpl Rohaniza Roslan, took the witness stand in the morning.

* Constable Azura Azwa Abdul Kadir and L/Cpl Leena Asing are attached to the Petaling Jaya district police headquarters' anti-vice, secret society and gambling division. Theirs were brief testimonies.
* DSP Lim Meng Seah, who led a team to arrest Abdul Razak, testified.
* Just before lunch break, prosecution called Loo Mow Chan, the operations manager at Hotel Malaya, to the stand. But after the break, he was told to stand down for the time being.
* UTK armoury storekeeper Constable Fatimah Abdul Wahab then testified on what murder accused Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar took from the armoury.

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UPDATE: Day 17 Trial

Razak served us drinks: Cop
R. Surenthira Kumar and Maria J. Dass; from S U N - Updated: 08:50PM Wed, 11 Jul 2007;

DAY 17
SHAH ALAM (July 11, 2007): Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda served refreshments to the eight policemen who arrived in his office to arrest him on the morning of Nov 7, the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial heard today. DSP Lim Meng Seah, who led the arresting team, drew laughter when he admitted his men had refreshments while Abdul Razak had his breakfast. There were more red faces when he admitted under cross-examination that they were served refreshments again when the team brought Abdul Razak back to his office to look for other items two days later.

Lim said during cross-examination by Abdul Razak's lawyer, Wong Kian Kheong, that Abdul Razak did not resist arrest and had cooperated with the police. Lim and the seven men, consisting of detectives and uniformed personnel, went to the Malaysian Strategic Research Centre office on the 10th floor of Bangunan Lembaga Getah Asli Malaysia and entered after asking his staff if Abdul Razak was in. After identifying himself and showing his authority card to Abdul Razak, Lim told Abdul Razak he was there to arrest him for investigations into the murder of Altantuya.
Wong: You said you went to his office without informing him, agree?
Lim: Agree.
Wong: On Nov 7, 2006, Abdul Razak did not resist when he was arrested, agree?
Lim: Agree.
Wong: As a senior police officer, do you know that an arrested person has the right to remain silent?
Lim: Yes.
Wong: After his arrest, Abdul Razak continued to answer your questions when you asked him about the numbers to the two handphones belonging to him which you seized from him and recorded in the search list?
Lim: Yes.
Wong: Agree he cooperated fully with you and your team?
Lim: Agree.
Lim, who is with the Kuala Lumpur police contingent headquarters' serious crime division (D9), admitted they were served refreshments by Abdul Razak when his team arrived to pick him up. The court burst into laughter upon hearing Lim's reply.
He became more embarrassed when Wong asked if refreshments were again served to him and his team, when Abdul Razak was taken to his office on Nov 9 to look for other items.
Wong: During the visit to Abdul Razak's father's house, drinks were served, agree?
Lim: Disagree.
Wong: The third accused (Abdul Razak) cooperated when visiting his father's house?
Lim: Yes.
Later, during re-examination by DPP Manoj Kurup, Lim explained that when they went to arrest Abdul Razak, he and his team were served refreshments because the political analyst claimed he had not had breakfast and was allowed to do so.
On the second visit, Lim said, Abdul Razak again had his breakfast in his office when he was brought there from the lock-up because he had not had breakfast in the lock-up.
Judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin asked if breakfast was not served to Abdul Razak, and Lim replied he did not have it.
The courtroom was again filled with laughter when Mohd Zaki said one can eat again even after one had had breakfast. Before that, Lim told the court he was instructed by DSP Gan Teck Guan to arrest Abdul Razak. He said that during the second visit to his office, Abdul Razak handed over four Hotel Malaya memos, containing notes allegedly written by Altantuya and which were dropped in his office by the Mongolian after she failed to meet him in his office.
Lim said he read the memos and recalled some of the words to the court: "You love money or love your life "and "I came with my father wait for you outside".He said in addition to the handphones, they seized two laptop computers, and the visitor's registration book from the building security guard. One of the computers was handed over to him by Abdul Razak's wife, Mazlinda Makhzan, after the police team failed to find it in Abdul Razak's father's house when the political analyst was taken there to look for it.
Lim said Abdul Razak's parents, wife, daughter and lawyer Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah were in the house, and they told police the computer could be in the car belonging to Abdul Razak which was parked in his office building. Lim said Abdul Razak's family told them they would retrieve the computer and hand it over to the police. The item was later given to investigating officer ASP Tony Lunggan.
Two policewomen who are colleagues of the prosecution star witness L/Cpl Rohaniza Roslan testified today. They are colleagues of Rohaniza in the Petaling Jaya district police headquarters' anti-vice, secret society and gambling division.
* Constable Azura Azwa Abdul Kadir told DPP Hanim Rashid that Rohaniza had asked her on Oct 31 which police station was busier - Travers or Brickfields - and she had replied Brickfields.
* L/Cpl Leena Asing testified that Rohaniza speed-dialled the Brickfields district police headquarters on Oct 31 and asked if any report of missing persons, sudden death report (SDR) or body found had been lodged.
Just before lunch break, the prosecution called Loo Mow Chan, Hotel Malaya's operations manager, to testify.
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'Cpl Sirul took MP 5 (silencer) sub-machine gun from UTK armoury'

ABOVE: a typical MP5 Silencer Sub-machine gun. Sirul check out ione from 4th to 30 Oct 2006 on a "special mission" Azilah and Sirul Azhar are charged with committing the murder between 10pm on Oct 19 and 1am on Oct 20 last year at Mukim Bukit Raja, Shah Alam. NB Sirul was said to be on Office duty, what was the "special mission"? then. To protect the PM in Pakistan during a visit??

SHAH ALAM (July 11, 2007): Murder accused Cplirul Azhar Umar had taken a MP 5 (silencer) sub-machine gun from the Special Action Unit (UTK) armoury on Oct 4 and returned it on Oct 30, the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial was told today. UTK armoury operative PC Fatimah Abdul Wahab, 30, said Sirul Azhar was given 60 bullets for the firearm but returned them all. Questioned by DPP Manoj Kurup in the examination-in-chief, she said she knew that Sirul Azhar had returned all the bullets on Oct 30 - even though the records were blank on this detail - because she had counted the bullets. Earlier, the court was told of the entry in the "outgoing and incoming weapons register" which indicated that Sirul Azhar had obtained the gun from the armoury.
The register stated that he took the sub-machine gun at 2pm on Oct 4 and returned it at 8.15am on Oct 30. The records stated he took out the weapon for special duty. Asked what "special duty" was, Fatimah said she did not know.
She said it was recorded as special duty based on a support letter from Sirul Azhar's superior - which is needed before weapons are released. However, she could not remember the superior's name.
When Manoj asked why the column in the register, which states how many bullets Sirul Azhar had taken and returned was left blank, Fatimah said: "I may have been busy, it's my mistake, I forgot to write it down." Judge Mohd Zaki Md Yasin then pointed out that of the 60 columns in the book, only 12 had details of the number of bullets taken and returned. Fatimah told the court it was a norm for those on armoury duty not to record the number of bullets taken and returned, and that she was not the only one who failed to do so.

She said a UTK operative cannot take out weapons from the armoury for others, unless it is for special duties, operation, or for practice purposes. Fatimah said: "Bullets are provided according to the weapon taken."

She said 60 bullets are provided for MP5 and 24 for Glocks (ABOVE) and Brownings pistols. Fatimah told the court that the procedure of giving and returning weapons was similar for all divisions in the police force. However, she was not aware of written regulations on the right procedure as she only followed what had been done by her seniors.

Food, drinks, then arrest

SHAH ALAM (July 11, 2007): Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda served refreshments to the eight policemen who arrived in his office to arrest him on the morning of Nov 7, the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial heard today. DSP Lim Meng Seah, who is assigned to the Kuala Lumpur police contingent's serious crime division and who led the team on that day, drew laughter when he admitted his men had refreshments while Abdul Razak had his breakfast. There were more red faces when he admitted under cross-examination that they again were served refreshments when the team brought Abdul Razak back to his office to look for other items two days after the arrest.

To questions from the defence, Lim said Abdul Razak:
* did not resist arrest and had cooperated with the police;
* continued to answer Lim's questions although an arrested person has the right to remain silent;
Other testimony:
* Abdul Razak handed over four Hotel Malaya memos, containing notes allegedly written by Altantuya which were dropped in his office after she failed to meet him in his office.
Lim read two of them: "Love money or love your life", and "I came with my father wait for you outside".
Another witness, special action force armoury storekeeper PC Fatimah Abdul Wahab testified that murder accused Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar had taken a MP5 sub-machine gun on Oct 4 and returned it on Oct 30. She said she remembered that he took two magazines containing a total of 60 bullets, although this was not recorded in the record book.

What happened yesterday (Day 17)

* Two policewomen, who are colleagues of prosecution witness L/Cpl Rohaniza Roslan, took the witness stand in the morning.
* Constable Azura Azwa Abdul Kadir and L/Cpl Leena Asing are attached to the Petaling Jaya district police headquarters' anti-vice, secret society and gambling division. Theirs were brief testimonies.
* DSP Lim Meng Seah, who led a team to arrest Abdul Razak, testified.

* Just before lunch break, prosecution called Loo Mow Chan, the operations manager at Hotel Malaya, to the stand. But after the break, he was told to stand down for the time being.

* UTK armoury storekeeper Constable Fatimah Abdul Wahab then testified on what murder accused Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar took from the armoury.

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