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Saturday, December 15, 2007
31 Likely to Be Freed on Attempted Murder Charges – PM directs AG & Assures No Rumoured Clashes; Existing Polices not easily changed by Street Demos
breaking news Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail has dropped the attempted murder charge against 26 Hindraf supporters.MORE
Four students cleared
Strong representations
= = == = from STAR; Monday December 17, 2007; MYT 1:25:21 PM; Attempted murder charges dropped against Hindraf 31 KLANG: The Attorney-General has dropped the attempted murder charge against the 31 protesters who took part in the illegal Nov 25 Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) rally in Kuala Lumpur. Tan Sri Gani Patail also dropped all three charges against the four students who were part of the so-called ‘Hindraf 31.’ The charges of mischief and illegal assembly remain against 26 of the protesters, all of whom pleaded guilty at the Klang Sessions Court Monday morning. The 31 were slapped with the attempted murder charge after they allegedly injured a policeman at the rally.
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UPDATE:
Sunday December 16, 2007, Sunday STAR Government to arrest more people under ISA JITRA: The Government will soon invoke the Internal Security Act (ISA) on several other people who orchestrated or took part in illegal assemblies in the capital, said Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Mohd Johari Baharum.
He said all of them were involved in masterminding the unlawful gatherings with racial undertones. “We already have their names and the police will soon arrest them,” he said after attending a meet-the-people session here yesterday. Johari said the ISA would only be invoked if there were enough evidence of one’s involvement in activitiesthat could threaten national security. He said the five Hindraf leaders were detained under the ISA on Thursday because there was evidence of sedition and their involvement in activities that threatened national security. – Bernama = = == = == Original Post Below
31 Likely to Be Freed on Attempted Murder Charges – PM directs AG & Assures No Rumoured Clashes; Existing Polices not easily changed by Street Demos
December 15, 200722:30 PM PM Asks AG To Consider Dropping Attempted Murder Charges Against 31
ABOVE: PM Abdullah speaking to newsmen after the UMNO Supreme Council Meeting KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 15 (Bernama) -- Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has asked Attorney-General (AG) Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail to consider the appeals by 31 people who took part in an illegal demonstration in BatuCaves last month, to drop the attempted murder charges against them. Abdullah, who is also Internal Security Minister, said he had asked the AG to decide on the matter as soon as possible. He said he sympathised with the 31 charged and believed that they were misled by the group which was behind the illegal assemblies in the federal capital and in BatuCaves on Nov 25. He said the 31 detained had also rejected the extremist group andpromised that they would not take part in any activities organised by the group in future. "The AG had informed me about this as representation had been made to him.
"This shows that many people had been misled by the group. I pity them...so I told the AG to please consider the representation and decide on the matter as quickly as possible," he said after chairing the Umno Supreme Council meeting here Saturday. Yesterday, MIC president and Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu conveyed the appeals made by parents of the 31 Indians detained without bail for charges of attempted murder, to the AG. A policeman was injured in the illegal demonstration.
ABOVE: Samy Vellu expressing hope that the attempted murder charge can be dropped and the 31 faced a lesser charge
Samy Vellu said the parents also requested MIC's help to secure the release of their loved ones.Thirteen Indian-based non-governmental organisations which met the primeminister yesterday over problems faced by the Indian community, also appealed for the attempted murder charges against the 31 to be dropped.On the arrest of the five extremists which was deemed wrong under the law by DAP chairman Karpal Singh, Abdullah said this was incorrect."The law allows the minister to act under Section 1 of the Act (ISA) after he is satisfied with the investigations carried out," he said
ABOVE: Receiving the Damai Memo supporting Government Anti Demos
= == = == = == = == = = December 15, 200722:23 PM Disregard Rumours Of Racial Clashes - Abdullah KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 15 (Bernama) -- Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has urged the public to disregard rumours of possible racial clashes in the capital tomorrow. Abdullah, who is also Internal Security Minister, denied rumours that Malays would congregate in Kampung Baru while the supporters of an extremist movement known as the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) would gather in BatuCaves. "They are mere rumours. The Malays have not said anything about holding any gathering tomorrow. As far as I know, there's none," said the Umno president after chairing the Umno Supreme Council meeting here Saturday.Rumours of racial unrest happening tomorrow are being spread verbally, via SMSes and over the Internet. The prime minister said the police would take appropriate action against those bent on undermining national security and harmony. Abdullah admitted that existing multimedia laws were not enough to curb such SMSes.The prime minister said the most effective mechanism to stop lies and rumours was for everyone to be responsible for their actions and to always be mindful of the country's interests. "All of us should assume responsibility when it comes to issues related to the country's peace and security or those that may give rise to anxieties, anger or perhaps reckless actions."We need to exercise caution. Don't spread lies," he said. Abdullah said the recent street protests had caused losses to many people, including traders, hoteliers, taxi drivers, bus companies and restaurants. He said the Umno Supreme Council had come out in support of measures taken by the government to safeguard the country's security and public order, including the move to detain five people under the Internal Security Act on Thursday for their involvement in an illegal rally on Nov 25.
= == = == == December 15, 200721:07 PM Demonstrations Can't Force Govt To Make Changes, Says Abdullah
KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 15 (Bernama) -- Street demonstrations are not something that can force the government towards making changes, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi says. He stressed that policies that had been drafted or even changes that had been made to the existing policies were the results of interactions with the people and according to their wishes delivered through the correct channel. Hence, democracy in Malaysia remained intact and the people appreciatedit, he said.
"We listen to what fishermen's associations are saying, what the farmers' associations are saying, the cooperatives are saying and the views of the village development and security committees and other organisations and political parties expressed in their meetings and motions. "This has been our way throughout," said Abdullah who is Umno president when chairing the party's supreme council meeting at its headquarters here Saturday. He said the people appreciated peace and security and public order because they realised that with all these, they would be able to find livelihood without being disturbed. "So, all actions that have been taken by the government are actions that meet the aspirations of the people," he said. Abdullah, who is Internal Security Minister, said the recent street demonstrations gave adverse impacts to the tourism industry and affected businesses.
Statements by the silent majority like the one made by 365 non-government organisations who objected to street demonstrations proved that most Malaysians hated and rejected things that could threaten public security and order, he said. The prime minister said the problem of poverty affected all races in both urban and rural areas and the government were taking steps to eradicate it irrespective of race. Abdullah said that in today's Umno supreme council meeting, members of the party voiced their support to the government's actions in dealing with issues involving national security and public order that had arisen lately. "They also support any proper of action that the government will take," he said. He reiterated that allegations of ethnic cleansing and oppression on the Indian community by an extremist group who orchestrated an unlawful rally in Kuala Lumpur recently were not true. "They are all not true but have been spread and exported abroad. All these bring hatred," he said. Asked whether the detention of five leaders of the group under the Internal Security Act on Thursday means the issue is considered settled, Abdullah said: "At this point of time, we are still able to preserve peace and justice and maintain public order. We are aware of attempts to disrupt the status quo and we will continueto be on alert and will take the proper action," he said.
= == == = December 15, 200714:36 PM Don't Misconstrue ISA Detention For Extremist Leaders - Dr Khir
SHAH ALAM, Dec 15 (Bernama) -- Local and foreign investors have been urged not to misconstrue the government's decision to detain five leaders of an extremist movement under the Internal Security Act (ISA). Selangor Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Mohamad Khir Toyo said the government invoked the ISA on them for masterminding illegal assemblies in Kuala Lumpur last month and for raising highly inflammatory issues that could cause racial tension among multiracial Malaysians. "Those who demonstrated, they are actually extremists, and the government treated them as extremists despite their beliefs and religion.
"I don't want our investor friends to have a negative perception of the arrests," he said, adding that the government did not only take harsh action against Hindu extremists but also Islamic extremist groups like the Al-Mauna a few years ago.
"The detention of the five who were behind the illegal assemblies is justified to maintain peace and stability in the country," he said at the Selangor Industry Award and Investors' Appreciation 2007 here last night. Five Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) leaders were slapped with a two-year ISA detention on Thursday while some of their supporters were charged in court for attempted murder last week. Dr Khir said the state government never neglected any race in the state regardless of their race, culture and religion. "All are treated equally as Malaysians or as Selangorians. We never deprive any race or religion in this country, especially in Selangor. "They were detained for their unhealthy political actions," he said. Certain parties claimed the Indians were marginalised in Malaysia but the highest poverty rate among Malaysians was still among Bumiputeras, especially the indigenous groups in Sabah and Sarawak, at 8.3 per cent. According to figures confirmed by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) resident representative in Kuala Lumpur Dr Richard Leete the poverty rate among Indians was 2.9 per cent and 0.6 per cent Chinese, Dr Khir said.At the event, Dr Khir presented awards to this year's winners of the state industrial awards. Two companies -- UMMI Manufacturing Sdn Bhd and OPCOM Cables Sdn Bhd won the Selangor Product Excellence Award, while Hartalega Sdn Bhd and Kendek Industry Sdn Bhd bagged the Selangor Innovative Excellence Award. The Selangor Product Brand Excellence Award went to Cass Technology Sdn Bhd and Deligateaux (M) Sdn Bhd, while Madetill Industries (M) Sdn Bhd grabbed the Selangor Design Excellence Award.
The four winners of the Selangor Quality Management Excellence Award are Sunway Medical Centre, Huber+Suhner (M) Sdn Bhd, Indkom Engineering Sdn Bhd and KEU Megamech Sdn Bhd. Strategic Products Sdn Bhd, Pantech Steel Industries Sdn Bhd and Flextronics Technology (Shah Alam) Sdn Bhd romped home the Selangor Export Excellence Award for Manufacturing. The Selangor Industrial Award introduced in 1999 is open to local and foreign firms operating in the state. Twenty-three finalists vied for for the six-category award this year.
= == === = = and Samy pulled off another Global Indian Show , the GPIO & PIO
December 16, 200700:09 AM
Global Indians Gather In Kuala Lumpur For Convention KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 15 (Bernama) -- More than 1,000 people of Indian origin from all over the world gathered at the Putra World Trade Centre tonight for the start of the three-day Ninth Global Organisation of People of Indian Origin (GOPIO) International Convention. MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu who launched the meet, spoke on the achievements of Indians in 110 countries, including Malaysia. He told the assembly of leaders of industries, business communities, academicians, diplomats and political leaders, that there should be an effective networking, partnerships and collaborative actions between people of Indian origin around the world. "We can strategically build effective networks and partnerships within us for global advantages," said Malaysia's Works Minister, Samy Vellu.
Among foreign political leaders present were Sri Lanka's Community Development Minister P. Chandrasekaran, Estate Infrastructure Deputy Minister Muthu Sivalingam and Constitutional Affairs Deputy Minister Jagetheswaran, and Justice and Human Rights Minister Jayarama Valaydenof Mauritius. Samy Vellu said that in many parts of the world, the Indian diaspora has excelled in education and professional capacities, economic and business ventures, political and civil society activities. "In so doing, it has contributed greatly to the nation building in their respective lands where they participate as active and responsible citizens," he said. "In the past, People of Indian Origin (PIO) were stereotyped as diligent service providers, such as teachers, lawyers, engineers, doctors and nurses. Over the last 50 years, they have emerged as successful entrepreneurs and have provided leadership in a few sectors in their respective nations," he remarked. = = == = == == December 15, 200714:44 PM Indian Businessmen Unfazed By Recent Developments In Malaysia By P. Vijian
NEW DELHI, Dec 15 (Bernama) -- Unperturbed by recent developments in Kuala Lumpur, the Indian business fraternity has expressed confidence in doing business with Malaysia. They described the racial discrimination issue, raised by certain quarters, as a domestic problem that is unlikely to have any impact on the two-way trade between the two traditional trading partners. "Trade between India and Malaysia will not be affected because of an internal problem," Federation of Indian Export Organisation vice-president A. Sakthivel told Bernama today. "Businesses depend on government-to-government relations and not between people-to-people ties. We have been at loggerheads with our neighbour Pakistan but our trade and business are flourishing," he said. Sharing a similar sentiment, A.M. Sadic (rpt Sadic) Ali, secretary of Indo-Malaysian Exporters and Importers Association, sees no immediate threat to the growing trade volume between both economies.
"There is no fear or apprehension from the trading community here. Malaysia remains promising as ever. No business has been affected after the recent incident. "In fact, Indian goods moving to Malaysia have increased substantially recently," he said. Bilateral trade relations have expanded significantly since 1991 when India adopted the open market policy, with many Malaysian companies participating in India's development projects. Likewise, several Indian companies have also based their operations in Malaysia. Currently, there are about 60 Indian joint ventures operating in Malaysia in sectors ranging from palm oil refining, power generation, railway, civil construction, training and information technology. Besides, 67 Indian information technology companies enjoy multimedia super corridor status in Malaysia and at least 20 other Indian companies are engaged in various manufacturing operations in Malaysia.
= = == == = ==Blasting away the Sandbar(by explosives, suggested by Najib; what about the Altantuya case?) at the Kuantan River Mouth. - "Case of wanting to shit, then start digging a hole". They should have anticipated this annual flooding problem and done it long ago before the floods set in. Beleive it, the last time they blasted the Sand bar was in 1971 (see report at Bottom)
ABOVE: The Sandbar and BELOW: Preparing the triggering device at about 11.30 am
= == = == = == = == == = ABOVE: Done by the Chief engineer from the Army Camp nearby Kuantan and witnessed by the Tengku Mahkota and BELOW: The Blast, Explosion and the pollution BELOW: Gone the Sand Bar that obstructed 80% of water flow at the river mouth.
2007/12/15 Sungai Pahang estuary blown up to help alleviate flooding in Pekan
BERNAMA; Via NST; PEKAN, SAT: Plastic explosives weighing 378kg were detonated at the Sungai Pahang estuary in Kampung Tanjung Agas here today to help alleviate flooding in this district. The blasting work was carried out by 20 millitary personnel from the Temerloh and Lanchang camps, led by Chief Engineer of the Army Brig Jen Datuk Ir Abdul Nassier Ahmad. It was intended to widen the estuary to 100m x 10m. The Tengku Mahkota of Pahang Tengku Abdullah Sultan Ahmad Shah who witnessed the 11.40 operation said the move was welcomed because a sandbar formed at the mouth of Sungai Pahang had obstructed the flow of water by 80 percent. “The sandbar in the estuary was blown up in 1971 and I believe it can speed up the flow of water to the sea,” he told reporters. Present were Army Field Commander Left Jen Datuk Zulkifely Mohd Zin, Tanjung Gelang Sea Region 1 Commander First Admiral Datuk Abdul Rashid and Pahang Chief Police Officer Datuk Ayob Mohamad. Tengku Abdullah said two more blasting works were expected in the next two days to open up the estuary futher.
However, the use of explosives was only a short-term measure and had to be followed up by more effective long-term steps such as digging up the sand so that the river water could flow more efficiently, he said. On Thursday, Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri NajibTun Razak who is also Defence Minister said the military should look into the possibility of blowing up the mouth of Sungai Pahang to alleviate flooding in Pekan which had worsened.
ISA Detention Order defective, invalid, unconstitutional; Karpal filed - Manoharan Release; Najib Equates Hindraf detainees with Guantanamo Bay ones
UPDATE: Sunday December 16, 2007, STAR DAP lawyers to defend five Hindraf leaders held under ISA PETALING JAYA: DAP lawyers will represent the five Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) officials detained under the Internal Security Act.Party central executive committee member A. Sivanesan, who will be among the lawyers, said initially, the party only represented its members M. Manoharan and V. Ganabatirau who are the among the detained Hindraf officials. The other three are lawyers P. Uthayakumar and R. Kenghadharan, and Hindraf coordinator T. Vasanthakumar. “We only received the detention order for Manoharan on Friday and have filed an application at the Ipoh High Court. “
As for Uthayakumar and Kenghadharan, we have received the detention order and will be filing the application tomorrow. “We will obtain the detention orders for Ganabatirau and Vasanthakumar on Tuesday,” Sivanesan told a press conference yesterday. In Penang, Bukit Gelugor MP Karpal Singh said he would be moving a motion in Parliament on Tuesday for a review of the detention order of the five Hindraf leaders.
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ISA Detention Order defective, invalid, unconstitutional; Karpal filed for Manoharan Release; Najib Equates Hindraf detainees with GuantanamoBay ones
UPDATE: Saturday December 15, 2007;MYT 4:49:57 PM; STAR
Don’t spread rumours via SMS, warns IGP
KUALA LUMPUR: Those spreading rumours via SMS on racial clashes can be detained under the Internal Security Act. Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan, who issued the warning, said police were aware of unscrupulous persons spreading rumours via SMS to incite racial clashes.He said there were such messages being circulated predicting racial clashes in Kampung Baru.
“We have our intelligence and we are prepared,” he said after attending a seminar on Neighbourhood Watch at the National Institute of Public Administration in Bukit Kiara Saturday. On the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), Musa said more of its members had been arrested but he could not reveal the number yet.He said the DAP had the right to go to court to seek the release of the Hindraf members being held under the ISA. “It is their right and they can try to do it,” he added.= == = == =ORIGINAL Post Below Friday December 14, 2007; MYT 6:47:28 PM
Writ of habeas corpus filed for Manoharan
IPOH: A writ of habeas corpus for the release of lawyer M. Manoharan from detention under the Internal Security Act (ISA) has been filed. DAP national chairman Singh, who is acting as lawyer for the detainee, said the application was filed at 4.30pm at the High Court here Friday. The High Court here fixed next Wednesday to mention the case, in which the Internal Security Minister and head of the Kamunting detention camp have been named as respondents. Karpal Singh said the two-year detention order issued by the Internal Security Ministry was unconstitutional and invalid. He said the detention order was not done in accordance with Section 73 of the ISA, which requires police investigations and recommendations to be given to the Internal Security Minister within a period of 60 days before a detention order is issued. During the 60-day period, he said, a detainee would be allowed to put up his defence before the Minister made a decision on the detention order. Manoharan, who was detained at 2pm on Thursday in Kuala Lumpur, is already put under a two-year detention order, which was handed to his wife V.N.S Pushpaneela when she visited Manoharan at the Kamunting detention camp in Taiping Friday morning.
“For the first time in the legal history of the ISA in Malaysia, a two-year detention order has been issued against a detainee without the initial 60-day period,” said Karpal Singh. “The order made by the Minister is defective,” he added. Manoharan and V. Ganabatirau, who are DAP members, are among five who were detained under the ISA on Thursday. The other three are lawyers P. Uthayakumar and R. Kenghadharan, and Hindraf coordinator T. Vasanthakumar.
Earlier at 10.30am yesterday outside the gates of the Kamunting detention camp in Taiping, Karpal Singh was denied entry to visit the detainees as their lawyer.
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Opposition plans to file application for two lawyers under ISA detention
KUALA LUMPUR: A writ of habeas corpus seeking the release of lawyers M. Manoharan and V. Ganabatirau members from detention under the Internal Security Act (ISA) will be filed soon. DAP national chairman Karpal Singh said the two lawyers for Hindraf were party members. “We will file the papers because the detention involves our members,” Karpal Singh told reporters at the Parliament lobby.
(The writ of habeas corpus has historically been an important instrument for the safeguarding of individual freedom against arbitrary state action. It is a summons with the force of a court order addressed to the custodian, such as a prison official, demanding that an unlawfully detained person be brought before the court for release.)
Also detained under the ISA yesterday were lawyers P. Uthayakumar and R. Kenghadharan, and Hindraf coordinator T. Vasanthakumar. Karpal Singh said the use of ISA under such circumstances could not be justified. “They should be given an opportunity to face trial in open court if there is evidence,” he added.
Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang concurred, “If they have committed an offence, bring them to court to stand trial. If it is sedition, charge them in court.” Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Mohd Nazri Abdul Aziz said the five were detained as public sentiments continued to be affected. “I believe the police have all the information to use the ISA for fear that the internal security of the country is compromised,” he said, adding that there were also SMSes spreading allegations against the Government. MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said the Government had taken the right action to put the five Hindraf leaders under ISA detention. “Peace needs to be maintained in the country. If you keep creating discord, then the Government has no choice but to invoke the ISA,” he told newsmen in Johor Baru.
= == == == = == = == = == of course not surprising, it was an easy way out and he equate the Hindraf detainees with those in Guantanmao Bay(not carry by Bernama for the MSM, but was on Video Capture.
ISA detentions no surprise, says Najib; Bernama via theSUN
When responding to a US demands that the Hindraf detainees be given a fair trial; Najibsaid
“Can they give a fair trial to the detainees at GuantanamoBay, first of all?We will only response if they do so” = == = = == == = == =
KUALA LUMPUR (Dec 14, 2007): Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak said the detention of the five men under the Internal Security Act (ISA) for the unlawful assemblies in the city here is not surprising. "The government had been very tolerant. We gave them enough advice on the need to respect and obey the law ,and refrain from threatening national security and public order.
"The public wanted the government to take a stern action much earlier but we were very patient and tolerant. We wanted to see how things develop, giving people a chance. "We gave sufficient warnings and advice. People must obey the law as nobody is above the law. When the ISA was invoked, it should not have come as a surprise to anyone," said Najib who is also Defence Minister. […] Inspector-General of Police (IGP) Tan Sri Musa Hassan said in a statement issued by Bukit Aman yesterday evening that all five had been sent to the Kamunting Detention Camp in Taiping, Perak. The five led the illegal Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) that held an unlawful assembly on Nov 25 and marched to the British High Commission to hand over a petition (INCORRECT????, see how facts are distorted & reported by IGP, they could not go near the HC at all and NO petition was handed over!) ) containing allegations that the Indian community in the country had been sidelined and accusing the Malaysian government of ethnic cleansing. On the Coalition for Clean and Fair Elections (Bersih) which organised an illegal rally on Nov 10, Najib said it was up to the Election Commission (EC) to consider its demands. "The EC can look into whatever suggestions but most people view our elections as free and fair," he added.
= == = = =Watch Najib video Clip (1min 37s + 1 min 39s on Hindraf last moments) his comparison and listen to his sarcastic words
“Can they give a fair trial to the detainees at GuantanamoBay, first of all?We will only response if they do so”
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BELOW: The last moments before the ISA arrest on 13 Dec 07 BELOW: Some Satellite pics not previously seen
= == =Bernama version; December 14, 200717:36 PM Najib: ISA For Five Not A Surprise KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 14 (Bernama) -- The detention of five men who were behind the unlawful assemblies in the federal capital last month under the Internal Security Act (ISA) on Thursday did not come as a surprise,said Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak. The deputy prime minister said the government had been very tolerant of them and had given them enough advice on the need to obey the law and refrain from threatening national security and public order.
"The public wanted the government to take a stern action much earlier but we were very patient and tolerant. We wanted to see how things develop, giving people a chance to conform with the requirements of the law. "We gave sufficient warnings and advice. People must obey the law as nobody is above the law. When the ISA was invoked, it should not have come as a surprise to anyone," Najib, who is also Defence Minister, told a press conference after the 36th General Border Committee Malaysia-Indonesia (GBC Malindo) meeting here today.
On November 25, the five -- P. Uthayakumar, M. Manoharan, R. Kenghadharan, V. Ganabatirau and T. Vasanthakumar -- leading a group called the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), held an unlawful assembly and marched to the British High Commission to hand over a petition (INCORRECT distortion & report) containing allegations that the Indian community in the country had been sidelined and accusing the Malaysian government of ethnic cleansing. On Bersih, which organised an illegal rally on November 10 to ask for free and fair elections, Najib said it was up to the Election Commission(EC) to consider its demands. "The EC can look into whatever suggestions but most people think that our elections are free and fair," he said
= = == = ==Background FROM DAP Teresa blog
GuantanamoBay, ISA no difference
March 29th, 2007 by Teresa
Malaysia Should Set Our Human Rights Record Straight When Condemning The Detention Without Trial Practiced By US In GuantanamoBay
The statement of Parliamentary Secretary of Foreign Affairs Shabery Cheek in Parliament yesterday that there is no demand for the abolition of the Internal Security Act (ISA) and that ISA detention cannot be comparedto the detention in Guantanamo Bay reflects his great ignorance over the demands made by various foreign and local organizations, including SUHAKAM on the abolition of the Act. Shabery Cheek said that the cruelty and grave human rights violation in Guantanamo Bay, such as the stamping and flushing of Quran pages in the toilet is something unheard of in ISA detention. Shabery Cheek must have conveniently forgotten that there are sworn affidavits from ISA detainees stating that they were forced to drink urine, and one was stripped and made to enact the crucification of Jesus Christ. He told parliament the Secretary General of United Nations has demanded the detention center in GuantanamoBay to be closed but no demands were made for the ISA be repealed. The fact remains that detention at GuantanamoBay and Kamunting Camp are detention without trial. I am surprised that Shabery Cheek seems ignorant that ISA has tarnished the image of Malaysia in the international community. Many resolutions, condemning the Malaysian government for using ISA to detain political dissidents, have been passed in many international conventions in the past, including Socialist International World Conference, Convention of Council of Liberal Democrats (CALD), International Parliamentary Union (IPU) Conference etc. The stress and hardships suffered by detainees and their family members in GuantanamoBay and Kamunting Detention Camp are the same. The long detention and mental torture suffered by the detainees have even driven them to mental breakdowns. This is the similarity of both Kamunting Detention Camp and GuantanamoBay. While the Malaysian government has requested the US Government for a fair trial of the two Malaysians who are suspected to be involved in the al-Qaeda terrorism activities, we should set out human rights record straight by repealing detention without trial under the ISA. ==================================
‘No demand for abolition of ISA’(malaysiakini yesterday)
Was foreign affairs ministry parliamentary secretary Ahmad Shabery Cheek being well, cheeky, in claiming that “no one has demanded that the Internal Security Act (ISA) be abolished”? He delivered this astonishing response, when replying to Teresa Kok (DAP-Seputeh), who wanted to know if Malaysia would abolish the ISA in tandem with the government’s condemnation of human rights violations at GuantanamoBay detention camp.
Ahmad said the ISA should not be equated with the US military base in Cuba, where terror suspects have been held for years without trial. He also said there has been rampant violation of human rights violations in GuantanamoBay, but not in Malaysia.
Another difference, he pointed out, was that, while there have been demands from human rights organisations to close down the base, “no one has asked for the ISA to be abolished”. (This is in spite of well-publicised pressure by rights groups, detainees’ families, opposition parties and the Human Rights Commission of Malaysia to seek repeal of the security law which provides for indefinite detention without trial.)“Issues related to violation of human rights at GuantanamoBay, which have been condemned by the world, are something unheard of in the context of the ISA here,” he said during the Question session..
“Newsweek reported that the Quran was stamped on, ridiculed and flushed down the toilets (in the detention camp).Such things are unheard of here.”He also confirmed that two Malaysians are among those detained. The US government told Wisma Putra on Sept 7 last year that the duo are Mohd Farik Amin and Mohammed Nazir Lep. They were among 14 others who were moved from secret locations by the Central Intelligence Agency to the base, and are suspected to be members of terror groups Al-Qaeda and Jemaah Islamiyah.
“The government through its embassy in WashingtonDC has requested the US government that they should receive a fair trial when tried (by a special court),” he said, adding that the proceedings would be monitored by Malaysia.
= == == = = == = =another of those UNimportant meetings, normally when a PM chairs a meeting, the electronic media would be invited
December 14, 200720:59 PM
Indian-Based NGOs Happy Over Meeting With PM
PUTRAJAYA, Dec 14 (Bernama) -- The leaders of 13 Indian- based non-governmental organisations (NGOs) have expressed happiness over the frank and open meeting they had with Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi at the Prime Minister's Office here Friday. They felt that similar discussions should be held regularly, allowing them to put forward their views on thorny issues concerning the Indian community. "It was a very fruitful meeting. All of us were given a chance to speak and the prime minister was willing to listen to our grievances. We spoke about various issues including sensitive ones. He was very receptive and we're glad that he wanted to hear us out," Malaysian Indian Business Association president P. Sivakumar told Bernama after the two-hour meeting.
Other NGOs present at the meeting were the Malaysian Hindu Sangam, Malaysian Hindu Dharma Mamandram, Malaysian Hindu Association, Sri Murugan Centre, Malaysian Hindu Youth Council, Malaysian Tamil Youth Bell Clubs Council, Malaysian Associated Indians Chambers of Commerce and Industry, NationalLand Finance Cooperative Society, National Union of Plantation Workers (NUPW), MalaysianTamilSchool Headmasters Association, Child Information Learning and Development Centre, andSocial Strategic Foundation. Also present were Works Minister and MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu and Suhakam Commissioner Datuk N. Siva Subramaniam."We all were given the opportunity to speak. The prime minister had his say and he listened to us. Everyone present pledged to work with the government to solve issues confronting the community," said Malaysian
Indian Youth Council president A. Rajaratnam. He said the NGOs also wanted unity and integration of races in the country strengthened. Suhakam's Siva Subramaniam said the meeting was "frank and cordial" and that apart from the Hindraf issue, racial integration came under spotlight at the meeting. "Although they (the NGOs) put forward their views, they stressed that unity should be of paramount importance.
They want a united Malaysia," he said. NUPW secretary-general Datuk G. Sankaran wanted more such meetings with the prime minister as they would be useful to iron out thorny issues that could not be discussed in the open."This will not only bring us closer but also let us have a better understanding of the government's constraints. We'll be able to put forth our problems and give suggestions on how we like these problems solved," he said. Malaysian Hindu Association president Datuk R. Nadarajah said the meeting did not just touch on normal issues like Hindraf as it also went deeper into matters pertaining to race and religion. "This is good. It's not often that you get to meet the prime minister and tell him the problems of the community. I hope such a meeting can take place once every three months or so," he said.
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PM meets Indian-based NGOs
PUTRAJAYA (Dec 14, 2007): Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi today met leaders of 13 main Indian-based non-governmental organisations (NGOs) in the country to brief and discuss current developments in the country.Malaysia's national news agency Bernama in a report today quoted a Prime Minister's Office spokesman as saying Abdullah stressed the importance of preserving peace and stability, which was important to a developing nation like Malaysia. "He also told them what the government was doing to narrow the socio-economic gaps among the various communities in the country," the spokesman told Bernama about the two-hour meeting which began at 10.30am.
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He said the prime minister listened attentively to various matters raised by the NGOs and explained at length what the government was doing for the Malaysian Indians to uplift them economically and socially. "He also explained the government's stand on the Hindraf (Hindu Rights Action Force) issue and all those who attended pledged to work with the government for the betterment of the Malaysian Indian community." The spokesman said Abdullah did not make any promises but listened to the views expressed by the 13 NGOs. "One thing for certain is that the NGOs disagreed with the way Hindraf used demonstrations to voice its views and claims, specifically ethnic cleansing of the Indian community, which they said did not make sense," he added.
Among the NGOs that attended the meeting were the Malaysian Hindu Sangam, Malaysian Hindu Dharma Mamandram, Malaysian Hindu Association, Sri Murugan Centre, Malaysian Hindu Youth Council, Malaysian Tamil Youth Bell Clubs Council, and Malaysian Associated Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry. The others were the Malaysian Indian Business Association, National Land Finance Cooperative Society, National Union of Plantation Workers, Malaysian Tamil School Headmasters Association, Child Information Learning and Development Centre, and Yayasan Strategik Sosial. Also present were Works Minister and MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu and Suhakam commissioner Datuk N. Siva Subramaniam.
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December 14, 200715:40 PM People Support Use Of ISA - Zainuddin
KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 14 (Bernama) -- The decision to use the Internal Security Act (ISA) on the five people behind the illegal assemblies in the federal capital last month, is what the people want, said Information Minister Datuk Seri Zainuddin Maidin. He said the action showed the government's determination to safeguard public order and national security as demanded by the people."The people have been waiting for such an action to deal with the case, and after it has been taken they are generally in support of it," he told reporters after launching the ministry's Quality Day celebration here today.
Yesterday, the government arrested five leaders of the unregistered group, Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), under the ISA, and according to police, the five had been sent to the Kamunting Detention Centre, Taiping. The five lawyers; P. Uthayakumar, M. Manoharan, R. Kenghadharan and V. Ganabatirau, and a senior executive with a public-listed company, T. Vasanthakumar -- are detained for two years for sedition and for carrying out activities which threatened national security
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Friday December 14, 2007;MYT 6:35:17 PM
Struggle will go on, says Hindraf leader
KUALA LUMPUR: The Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) will continue its peaceful struggle through prayers advocating the rights of Malaysian Indians, its chairman P. Waythamoorthy said. Waythamoorthy, contacted by telephone in London Friday, said the group was undeterred by the arrest of its leaders. “Hindraf will continue to defend the five leaders detained under the Internal Security Act (ISA) and the other 31 Indians arrested for the peaceful walk in the city. “We have further lost confidence in the Government after it detained our top officials without trial,” said Waythamoorthy, who will plan the group’s next course of action from London. He is currently there to garner international support for Hindraf. He urged supporters to remain calm and pray for the release of those detained and others arrested. On Thursday, P. Uthayakumar, M. Manoharan, R. Kengadharan, V. Ganabatirau and K. Vasantha Kumar were arrested under the ISA. They have been detained at the Kamunting detention centre. Their detention order was signed by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who is also Internal Security Minister. “Arresting our leaders does not mean we are without a leadership. I, and a few others, will continue to lead our non-violent struggle for Indian rights in Malaysia,” said Waythamoorthy.“I will continue to issue statements from London and keep the Indians informed through the other leaders in Malaysia.” He stressed that Hindraf would remain apolitical and did not want any political party to hijack the movement’s struggle.
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