Saturday, September 29, 2007

Anwar: MORE Video Clip Release (Sep 29 07) – Nail those involved; 200 Protests at National Mosque over Judiciary; What did Shankar & Haidar said

UPDATE:12.01 am :
New Additional Clip not released!
(PKR) youth information chief Lau Tek Hai should be "charged" for giving out misleading information! or was it a gimmick to draw people to Taman Melawar?
Was a preview shown or just the audio?
Malaysiakini Late night news BELOW, details H E R E by Sub

: MORE Video Clip Release (Sep 29 07) will Nail tinvolved; 200 Protests at National Mosque over Judiciary; What did Datuk Mahadev Shankar & Tan Sri Haidar said About Video Clip?

Surprising Malaysiakini and even the PKR Bloggers like Nat at Jelas are blank about this release of additional Video footage announced by PKR youth info chief, The PKR has one of the website (English edition) that needs regular maintenance. Go to their site and nothing is said about the release of this additional clip. And nothing about its Vise President being called to the ACA office. It seems to rely on Malaysiakini to do the job for them FOC.

ABOVE: PKR Website, outdated press Statement, last one Sept 19 and BELOW: Berita Terkini - No news on this additional Clip release

Malaysiakini latest story

Batu Buruk riot: Umno Youth to sue opposition Sep 29, 07 12:36pm

Alleged fixing of judges: More of video clip to be revealed tonight

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 29 (ES) - Additional portions of a video clip which has allegedly implicated a senior lawyer brokering for judicial appointments would be released at an event here today. Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) youth information chief Lau Tek Hai said the addition to the eight minute clip would be revealed at the Islamic Party of Malaysia (PAS) base in Taman Melewar here. He said the clip would also be beamed online to Cheruk Tok Kun in Permatang Pauh, the sole parliamentary seat currently held by PKR. Former deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is expected to unveil the clip at an event after the Tarawih prayers at about 9.30pm. Asked on what is interesting in the clip, Lau who refused to elaborate but said the additional eight minutes of the clip will be very interesting especially to those who have so far denied their involvement in the episode. "I guess we will have to wait," he said when met after participating in a joint protest organized by PAS and PKR youth at the National Mosque here Friday 28 Sept.

Protestors adamant for a Royal Commission

Some 200 protestors were present including PAS treasurer Dr Mohd Hatta Ramli, youth chief Salahuddin Ayub and PKR youth chief Shamsul Iskandar Mat Akin. They chanted slogans and held banners which read; "Justice is lost", Justice has been raped" and "There is no more justice". They also listened to speeches urging for the immediate formation of a Royal Commission to look into the matter. In contrast to mixed reactions to the formation of a three-man panel by the Cabinet on Monday, opposition leaders at the protest now voiced out united rejection on what they see as further attempts by the executive to meddle in the judiciary by forming the panel. They planned to organize a bigger program so that their demand for a Royal Commission were met, after considering the limited term of reference of the panel. Opposition leaders including Anwar and parliamentary opposition leader Lim Kit Siang had named the current a prominent judge as the other person who the lawyer talked to in the clip.

The judge however had denied the accusations. -

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Memorandum to the King; Sep 29th, 2007 by Tian Chua

ABOVE: The Delegation who had an "audience" with the Palace Guards

We finally got the consents from the Palace that the King is willing to receive a memorandum from Parti Keadilan Rakyat on the issue of judiciary. 28 Sept morning, President Dr Wan Azizah led a delegation which included Tan Sri Khalid, Shamsul Iskandar and myself to the Istana Negara. As usual the police was nervous and heavily guarding the front gate. At 09:30hr, we were at the gate. We were told that we had to wait at the gate and an official would come to receive the document. In our 9 years of Reformasi struggle, I had came to the Palace three times. First time, I led a large crowd marched from Dataran Merdeka. We attempted to hand over a petition to seek the release of Anwar Ibrahim. We were dispersed by heavily armed police and water canons. The second time, we came to petition the King on the arsenic poisoning of Anwar. The crowd gathered at Masjid Negara and marched to Istana. The petition was safely submitted to the palace officials but the masses were attacked by FRU with water and tear gas. Last time was after the 2004 General Election. I joined the delegation led by President Dr Wan Azizah to submit a memorandum calling for the cleaning up of our election system. We were invited into the Palace compound and our memo duly received. This time, we are allowed only outside the gate. Apparently the police had adviced the Palace not to let us go any further due to security reason. A petty official came out to take our memorandum. It was really an uneventful event. As democrats, we are not seeking intervention of the monarchy in civil politics. However in this situation where judiciary as one of the three pillars of democracy has been rotten and corrupted. The King as the guardian of the national sovereignty is requested to act. We reject the so-called Independent Panel which was tasked only one job, ie. to study the authenticity of the video. One really doesn’t need Lee Lam Tai and two ex-judges to do a forensic analysis to verify digital records. The video is not an isolated incident, but part of the continuous trend of the erosion of public confidence in our judiciary system. The government cannot pretend to be a trivial problem. A royal commission will not solve all problems. However it would be a good start to have a thorough review of our judiciary system. Today, Malaysia needs more than a royal commission, the integrity of all our public institutions are fast disintegrating. If rots continue, the people might resort to a revolution to save the nation!

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Probe panel appeals for time to settle down

R. Manirajan; theSUN
PUTRAJAYA (Sept 27, 2007): Members of the Special Independent Investigation Panel appointed by the government to determine the authenticity of a video recording pertaining to appointment of judges today received their call-up letters, and refused to publicly engage their detractors. Facing a battery of press reporters after an hour-long meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak and Chief Secretary to the Government Tan Sri Mohd Sidek Hassan in the Prime Minister's Office here, the three panel members appealed for time for them to settle down before answering more questions.

ABOVE: Tan Sri Haidar Mohd Noor , from Bernama's quote:

"Terms of reference is very clear – only to just on the authenticity of the Video Clip. We are not going into details as our terms of reference are purely to verify the authenticity of the video clip. I will discuss with the members as to the mechanics of how we should go about doing this

- If it is ONLY to determine the authenticity, then it can be done in a few minutes if the main actor (V K Lingam) is located by phone. He has reportedly absconded overseas (where else but in India?) and cannot be reached. He may never come back here to face the music and Shame he has brought to the Judiciary . The Bar Council committee has instituted procedure to "get at him"

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Its chairman Tan Sri Haidar Mohd Noor (ABOVE), a former Chief Judge of Malaya, said the panel will be using the Prime Minister's Department's legal department as its secretariat office and all logistic and administrative matters will be decided when they meet next. "Let us settle down. We just got our appointment letters and when everything is finalised ... we will call for another press conference to let you know on how we are going to move, including our terms of reference," said Haidar.

and this is what he said on TV:

“We go into it with an open mind. Then when we got the material we will decide on the strength of the material that has been put to us. We are not going to listen to he “khabar angin” [rumors] or whatever it is. It has got to be put to us. We look at that and then we will give you a conscientious and honest answer” - watch the Video Clip

He did not say when they will start and finish their investigation. Said another member Datuk Mahadev Shankar,(ABOVE) a former court of appeal judge: "I can make a solemn promise, that the sun will rise tomorrow. The rest I don't know."

The other panel member, Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye (ABOVE, was "speechless"), looked on without commenting. On concerns over the panel's legal power to summon witnesses, Haidar said his team will be finalising that when they meet. He hinted where they will derive their powers when he said they will be seeking the cooperation of government agencies like the police and Anti-Corruption Agency for this process. Asked for his comments on opposition parties and others questioning his credibility, especially in relation to his role in the 1988 judicial crisis, Haidar said: "We can't stop people from questioning our credibility. I have a job to do and I will do it."

On Najib's advice to them during the meeting, he said he wished them luck and told them he would respect their findings. Adding to Haidar's statement, Mahadev said the panel has taken note of everything raised by the people, including the panel's ambit of power. "It is too early to say anything. We just got our letters and we are not going to listen to rumours," he added.
At an earlier function in
Kuala Lumpur, Najib was quoted by Bernama as saying that no one should dispute the integrity of the three panel members. "They are of the highest integrity. Do not question their integrity. There is no question of the other' camp (appointment from among the opposition). Do not politicise their appointment," he told reporters after presenting Aidilfitri goodies for Armed Forces personnel, at the Defence Ministry here.

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Weighing state of the judiciary

Sunday, 30 September 200; Shaila Koshy©The Sunday ;by Shaila Koshy
Three illustrious former members of the Bench share their views about the current state of the judiciary amid calls for an independent Judicial Commission for the appointment and promotion of judges.
SINCE the 1988 judicial crisis, the judiciary has been beset with allegations of impropriety. Now calls for an independent Judicial Commission for the appointment and promotion of judges have been renewed with the emergence of a video clip showing the apparent brokering of appointments between a lawyer and a senior judge. Sunday Star talks to three retired judges – considered to be among the most highly-respected to have served on the Bench – for their views on the current state of the judiciary and what can be done to improve matters.
The three – Datuk Shaik Daud Ismail, Datuk K.C. Vohrah and Datuk V.C. George – retired as Court of Appeal (COA) judges. Shaik Daud gives training sessions at the Legal and Judicial Training Institute; Vohrah is a Suhakam commissioner, and George is a sought-after dinner speaker and moderator at legal conferences. All also do arbitration.

Datuk Shaik Daud IsmailThe Penang-born Shaik Daud, 71, started in the Legal and Judicial Service in 1963. He was appointed to the High Court 1983, and retired from the COA – the second highest court in Malaysia – in 2001. When he was called to the Bar in 2003, Federal Court Justice Md Raus Sharif praised him for “upholding the integrity of the judicial system.”
George, 77, a former Bar Council chairman, was appointed a High Court judge in 1981 after 25 years as a lawyer. He retired in 1995. His judgment in Foo vs TVB Ltd in 1985 put Malaysia on the “world copyright map” because he held that a company making films in Hong Kong was entitled to copyright protection here.
Born in Malacca, Vohrah, 70, was appointed to the High Court in 1986 and COA in 2001. He made the news in 1996 after he overturned the extension of a remand order and ordered the immediate release of the remaining 10 participants of the Apcet II meeting who had been detained after a few hundred Umno Youth members had stormed the conference.
The following are excerpts of the interviews that were conducted separately:
Sunday Star: The Bar points to the 1988 judicial crisis as the start of the problems in the judiciary. How were instances of impropriety dealt with before 1988?
Shaik Daud: When I was a High Court judge, if I received such a complaint I would show the letter to the subordinate judge under my supervision and ask him to tell me the truth. Sometimes there was nothing to the complaint but at times I took action. Unfortunately, I never told any of the complainants my findings. That was wrong.
Vohrah: There weren't many cases of not writing judgments but if the Lord President got a letter complaining of that he would call up the judge and tell him to get it done. As for errant judges, there were one or two cases but as soon as the LP was aware of it he dealt with it promptly. In that time also action was taken swiftly against errant judicial officers; a number of them were disciplined or sacked.

George: When I was Bar president, I can think of one complaint of corruption involving a magistrate in the 1970s. The then Attorney-General, Tan Sri Abdul Kadir Yusof, spoke to the person concerned and told him to resign in the name of 'national service'. When I heard about it and asked why that person was not prosecuted, Kadir said it had been dealt with quietly because he did not want one black sheep to besmirch the reputation of the entire judiciary.
When I was a High Court judge, I did not hear of any impropriety on the part of any magistrate or Sessions Court judge. And if there was a letter of complaint against any High Court judge, all the Lord Presidents I served under would refer it to the Chief Justice of Malaya or Borneo (Sabah and Sarawak now). The CJM/ CJB would ask for an explanation and dismiss the complaint if they found it to be frivolous after hearing it, as happened once with me.

Whenever you heard allegations of impropriety, what did you do?
Shaik Daud: I was in Pahang when I received complaints that a magistrate in Raub started hearings at 11am or even after lunch. He was also seen having lunches with lawyers in the coffeeshop every day; people in rural towns don't like that. So I gave him a warning.

Vohrah: In one matter, some lawyers came to see me with an application for a revision. I was horrified at the number of breaches of the Criminal Procedure Code. I fixed the case for revision the next day and instructed my registrar to inform the AG's Chambers.
The next morning a judge came to see me to pass the message that no one from Chambers would be coming. He added our “chief” had said that if I continued to hear the application for revision, the Special Branch would come. I replied, “So what?” I conferred with Justice Malek (Ahmad) and he agreed that I should tell the Chambers that I would continue with the hearing without them. They sent someone. From that incident I made it be known that I couldn’t be browbeaten. Judges should not be cowed by superior judges if their directions are not consonant with the principles of justice.

George: I did not hear of any specific act of impropriety against any judge, only rumours and talk. If I had I would not have had any hesitation to refer the matter to the powers-that-be.

Has there been any change in the way the top positions in the judiciary are filled and judges selected post-1988?
: Before, only one name would be submitted to the Prime Minister. But after 1988, a list of names would be submitted for him to choose from.
Shaik Daud: In the past, appointments by one person seemed to work. But lately, I've noticed that some appointments are questionable.
To become a magistrate, a judicial commission interviews the candidate, as I was. There is transparency. But to select a judge, that doesn't happen. That is ridiculous when this person is given the power to take someone's life. The fact that you have to appear before a commission means someone is vetting you. In the case of (superior court) judges, the PM will not know who the CJ recommends and accepts the names in good faith.

Datuk VC George: As early as the 1970s I had spoken of the need for a different system of appointments because the existing one was not good enough. In the days of (then LPs) Tun Suffian (Hashim), Raja Azlan (Shah, now Sultan of Perak) and Tun Salleh (Abas) would check up on candidates with the Bar president and other senior lawyers informally. It was possible then because there were only 600-700 lawyers but today there are over 12,000.

But even with such checks, mistakes can happen as in the case of one lawyer who was appointed a Judicial Commissioner. That mistake was “corrected” after the former lawyer's law firm made serious allegations against him; I believe he was prosecuted. There was also one nomination that was withdrawn after the Bar Council drew attention to the fact that a suit, alleging fraud, had been filed against the candidate.

Cases like these only reinforce the importance of checking thoroughly a potential candidate before they are appointed. Post-1988, there have been fewer or no consultations with the Bar. Tun Hamid Omar (who replaced Salleh) was not on speaking terms with the Bar after it had passed a vote of no confidence against him.
Does it appear from the delayed appointments for the 2nd and 3rd positions in the judiciary that the Conference of Rulers had conducted their own background research on those nominated?
Shaik Daud:
If we have a Judicial Commission, it would take care of that. With the backing of the law and proper guidelines, the commission would be able to do a good job. It could also take care of promotions. Now, you're not promoted just because you're senior. We have seen so many cases where seniors and seniors with merit are not promoted but juniors without merit are. The reason would appear to be they are being rewarded.
Vohrah: I disagree with the speculation of tensions between the rulers and the PM. Their role is a throwback to the Durbar (rulers' conference) dating back to 1897. The Constitution provides for the rulers to call for papers and reports to help them reach a decision and a consultation should mean they also have the power to investigate.
I have seen you at social gatherings where lawyers were present but I have never heard allegations of impropriety made against you. How come?
Shaik Daud: Maybe because of the way we behave and the way we portray ourselves that tell people that we don’t entertain these things. If you want to have a party in your house I will attend but that's it.
George: In those days there was a lot of free mingling between the Bar and the Bench - everyone knew their place, nobody took advantage of it and it never became an issue. Again, I stress the importance of appointing the right people.

Vohrah: I don’t know (laughs).
How effective has the Code of Ethics been?
Shaik Daud
: It was drafted when I was there but it was never implemented as far as I know. George: It's an absolute waste of time. It comes back to the character of the person at his appointment. If you appoint the right people, they will do their job and you don’t need some code to tell them how to behave.
Many complaints don’t warrant a removal by a tribunal but do people need a forum to lodge minor complaints and for disciplinary action to be taken?
Datuk KC VohrahVohrah: There was a move when Tun Dzaiddin (Abdullah) was CJ to do just that. I sat on a committee with Tan Sri Richard Malanjum (Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak) and others and we came up with recommendations for amending the Federal Constitution to deal with minor infractions using a code of conduct. I don’t know what happened after that.
But in 2005, Parliament did amend Article 125 of the Constitution so the CJ can “refer a judge who commits a breach of any provision of a code of ethics as prescribed by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong to a body constituted under federal law.”
There is a need for such a mechanism because the usual complaints are that judges don’t sit on time or postpone cases for the flimsiest of reasons. I have also heard complaints of judges shouting at lawyers or making inappropriate remarks.

Why don't the lawyers ask the Bar Council to raise it with the judiciary?
Vohrah: I guess they fear reprisals that will affect their clients. It never used to be like this. This is the result of appointing the wrong or incompetent people to the Bench. I want to add here, however, that this only relates to a handful of judges. The majority are good and hardworking.
Are you in favour of a Judicial Commission?

I hope there will be an independent Judicial Commission to ensure an independent, incorruptible, and competent judiciary. I cannot stress more strongly the need to investigate and assess a person before they are appointed.
Merit is not an issue in deciding promotions if the person was of good quality, character and morality at selection.
: Definitely. After Suhakam's forum on the right to an expeditious and fair trial in 2005, we called for a commission in our report, saying the competency of judges had a bearing on the efficiency of the judicial system. I want to add that there have been some good people in the AG's Chambers who should have been made judges but they were not appointed.
Shaik Daud: A Judicial Commission would be a good start (to restoring public confidence in the judiciary). It can enforce the code.
A panel of inquiry is investigating the video clip but do you think there is a need for a royal commission of inquiry to examine the affairs of the judiciary in light of all the complaints that have arisen since 1988?
George: The panel is only looking at one issue. I think the Bar is on the right track in calling for a royal commission to look into all aspects of the judiciary.

Vohrah: Yes. A royal commission could explore all aspects of the ills besetting the judiciary. The problems are far-reaching and something has to be done fairly quickly before the judiciary slides further down the track.
What do you say to de facto Law Minister Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz who insisted that everything was all right with the judiciary?
I think he's probably not aware of what is happening on the ground. In many commercial contracts, parties are including an arbitration clause to resolve disputes instead of the courts. That is a terrible blow to the judiciary because apart from a handful, the rest are good judges. In some states, there may be three or four judges but you will find that only one or two are doing all the work and carrying the whole burden.
Vohrah: ‘Judges should not be cowed by superior judges if their directions are not consonant with the principles of justice’
Shaik Daud: ‘We have many cases where seniors and seniors with merit are not promoted but juniors without merit are’
George: ‘If you appoint the right people, You don’t need some code to tell them how to behave’

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Amazing Video Clip (4 min) On Al Jazeera TV - WATCH THIS BEFORE IT'S TAKEN OFF THE WEB

"Click on the link to hear One very knowledgeable, impressive and outspoken woman. Here is a powerful and amazing statement on Al Jazeera television. The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. Suggest you watch it ASAP because the link may not be active for long. This film clip should be shown around the world repeatedly as she speaks the truth and should be a 'wake-up call' - thanks to propmark2001 for the link

Go H E RE, read ONLY the sub-titles if you cannot understand the spoken words, Clip first released on Feb 21 2006

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UPDATE: Day 43 Bottom
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Day 42 Altantuya MurderTrialSept 28 2007, Friday

Malaysiakini still has no coverage of the Altantuya Mirder Trial in its 42nd Day (others called it 43rd) and focused on the Myanmar’s issues & others on

Burmese Embassy sees red Andrew Ong | Sep 28, 07 10:59am and

Bring Burma crisis to the UN fore, PM urged Sep 28, 07 1:36pm and

Video clip: Bar EGM put off Beh Lih Yi | Sep 28, 07 5:32pm


ABOVE: 3rd accused Abdul Razak spotted on Day 42 shouting to his family for attention?

But No Go for Reliable records

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September 28, 2007 16:28 PM

ABOVE: An artist impression of Court on Day 42 trial

No Way To Know Sirul Used Touch'n Go, Court Told

SHAH ALAM, Sept 28 (Bernama) -- The High Court was told here Friday that there was no way of knowing whether Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar used a Touch 'n Go card registered under his name at two toll plazas on the day Altantuya Shaariibuu was allegedly murdered.

An operations executive of Rangkaian Segar - the issuer of Touch 'n Go cards - Wan Abdullah Wan Ali,(ABOVE) 30, said it was possible for an individual to buy many cards and register them under his name and then give the cards away to other people.

He was replying to a question by Sirul's lawyer Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin (ABOVE).

ABOVE: An artist impression of Sirul Azhar

Sirul (ABOVE), 36, and C/Insp Azilah Hadri, 31, are alleged to have murdered Mongolian woman Altantuya, 28, in Mukim Bukit Raja here in October last year. Political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda, 47, is charged with abetting them. Abdullah, who is the 34th prosecution witness, said he was not sure how many cards an individual could ask for when making an application for the first time but at other times, he could apply for more than one.

Kamarul: "When an individual wants to make an application for Touch'n Go cards, does he need to fill a form?"
Abdullah: "No necessarily because they can apply on-line besides filling up a form and also through promotions carried out at toll plazas."
Kamarul: "In the case of Sirul, do you know how the application was made?"
Abdullah: "I am not sure." He said that a Touch'n Go card applicant, either by filling a form or on-line, did not need to give the registration number of vehicle that would be using the card.

During re-examination by Deputy Public Prosecutor Tun Abdul Majid Tun Hamzah (ABOVE) , he said he did not know whether Sirul had more than one card when he was asked to provide a copy of transaction record to the police because he was given the serial number of only one card. Abdullah also said that his company did not keep the original document of each transaction record in a file and would only give the copy to anyone requesting it because each data was kept in the computer.

Rangkaian Segar deputy senior operations manager Azman Md Ali, 40, said he could not find data on Azilah or his identity card number after the police asked him to find information about the first accused and Rohaniza Roslan on November 6 last year. When Majid asked whether it was possible to know the user of a Touch 'n Go or Smart Tag, he said: "Yes, but it may not be accurate." He also said that based on the transaction record, the card registered under Sirul's name, had been used with a Smart Tag in five occasions. The hearing before Justice Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin resumes on Monday.

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Witness: Not sure if Sirul actually used Touch 'n Go card
Maria J. Dass, theSUN

SHAH ALAM (Sept 28, 2007): Rangakaian Segar Sdn Bhd operations executive Wan Abdullah Wan Ali (ABOVE) told the High Court that he could not know for sure if it was second accused Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar who had used a Touch 'n Go card although it was registered to his name. There was no restriction to the number of cards which could be bought by one person, and of the transfer of the card to another person, he said.

Wan Abdullah was testifying in the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial where the prosecution was trying to build a case around the movements of second accused Sirul Azhar based on his Touch 'n Go card transactions and pictures provided by highway operator PLUS. Questioned by second accused Sirul Azhar’s lawyer Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin, Wan Abdullah said he did not know if Sirul was the one who used the Touch 'n Go card for all the transactions in the records. Kamarul: (Referring to the transaction records of a Touch n Go card belonging to Sirul ) There is no way to know if Sirul was the one who used the card for all the transactions.
Wan Abdullah: I don’t know.

Former deputy senior operations manager for Rangkaian Segar Azman Md Ali told the court that the difference in two printouts of Touch 'n Go transactions handed over to the police was because one was printed using the general system for all workers (P29), while the other (ID120) was printed using a system which is only accessible to the fraud monitoring team in Rangkaian Segar.

The system used by the fraud monitoring team has information on the toll lanes, location and smart tag number which is also known as an OBU (On Board Unit) number. Asked about the time differences recorded by PLUS highway CCTVs and the Touch 'n Go transaction records Azman said: "From my experience the times are usually different as PLUS does not have a time syncronisation server. Questioned by DPP Tun Abdul Majid Tun Hamzah if there was a fault with the system as there were discrepancies in the times between the date provided by PLUS and Rangkaian Segar, Azman said: "There is no glitch but the data came late, or never reached Rangkaian Segar." "Based on the record, there is no fault (to the system)," he said. Hearing continues on Monday (Oct 1).

ABOVE: The two hooded ones on Day 42 Trial emerging from Car Park and BELOW & BELOW: The hooded ones

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ABOVE: Abdul Razak Baginda arriving on Day 42 Trial and BELOW: Close-up view

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MORE PICS & VideoAltantuya Murder Trial Day 43;CCTV Jeep Image (No. & Driver Not Visible); Touch n Go , Smart Tag & CCTVs times differ

Friday, September 28, 2007

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Malaysiakini has lost interest in the coverage of the Altantuya Mirder Trial in its 41st Day (others called it 42nd) and focused on the Myanmar’s issues on

Burmese Embassy sees red Andrew Ong | Sep 28, 07 10:59am and

Bring Burma crisis to the UN fore, PM urged Sep 28, 07 1:36pm

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Touch 'n Go evidence on Sirul's movement on day Altantuya went missing

R. Surenthira Kumar and Maria Angela, from the SUN

DAY 41 (some call it Day 42) – Sep 27 07

Shah Alam Court
SHAH ALAM (Sept 27, 2007): Evidence was introduced by the prosecution in the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder trial today to show Cpl Sirul Azhar Umar’s movements on the day the Mongolian woman went missing. Operations executive for Rangkaian Segar Sdn Bhd, the operators of the Touch ‘n Go card, Wan Abdullah Wan Ali, 30, testified records revealed the smartcard, issued under Sirul Azhar’s name was utilised on four occasions on Oct 19, 2006, the night of Altantuya’s disappearance. He was replying to questions posed by Deputy Public Prosecutor (DPP) Tun Abdul Majid Tun Hamzah during the examination-in-chief on Wan Abdullah,(BELOW) on the 41st day of the murder trial.

ABOVE & BELOW: Wan Abdullah from Touch & Go being grilled in witness box on Day 41 Trial

Touch ‘n Go card is used as a mode of payment for highways, public transportation, parking at selected places and theme parks. Each time a consumer uses the Touch ‘n Go card, the electronic card reader will deduct the exact fare or charges from the value stored inside the card. The consumers can top-up or reload the card with a pre-defined amount to continue using it.

Wan Abdullah said the details of the smartcard transactions were made available by his company following a request from the police, in connection with the investigations into Altantuya’s murder.
Tun Abdul Majid took Wan Abdullah through the printout copies of the Touch n’ Go card transactions made with the card belonging to Sirul Azhar. He then zoomed into the transactions of the smartcard on
Oct 19, 2006. He told judge Datuk Mohd Zaki Md Yasin, the UTK personnel’s card was used at the Jalan Duta and Kota Damansara toll plazas. The transactions took place between 7.14am and 9.57pm.

Wan Abdullah said the records showed Sirul Azhar had used the Jalan Duta and Kota Damansara toll plazas during the time and each time he exited, the toll was deducted from the smartcard.
Tun Abdul Majid: (ABOVE) Refer to document P115. Transaction 62833, dated
Oct 19, 2006. The record showed the entry plaza as 240, where is this?

Wan Abdullah: The Kota Damansara toll plaza.
Tun Abdul Majid: Does this mean, Sirul Azhar entered the highway through the Kota Damansara toll plaza?
Wan Abdullah: Yes.
Tun Abbdul Majid: And he exited through the Jalan Duta toll plaza?
Wan Abdullah: Yes.
Tun Abdul Majid: Transaction time,
7:14:47, what does this indicate?
Wan Abdullah: Exit time.

Tun Abdul Majid: Why is the entry time not registered?
Wan Abdullah: We only record the time when payment is made during exits. Its because when a user enters the highway, payment is not immediately imposed.

Tun Abdul Majid: For transaction 62833, at the Kota Damansara toll plaza, a fee was not imposed?

Wan Abdullah: No.
Tun Abdul Majid: The next transaction, 62832?
Wan Abdullah: The user entered through the Jalan Duta toll plaza and exited at the Kota Damansara toll plaza at
Tun Abdul Majid: Where was the fee imposed on the user?
Wan Abdullah: At the Kota Damansara toll plaza.
Tun Abdul Majid: And the deduction can be seen at the card blance in the last column of the printout?
Wan Abdullah: Yes.

Tun Abdul Majid: Transaction 62831?
Wan Abdullah: On
Oct 19, 2006, user entered through the Kota Damansara toll plaza and exited at the Jalan Duta toll plaza at 8:48:32pm.

Tun Abdul Majid: Transaction 62830?
Wan Abdullah: On
Oct 19, 2006, user entered through the Jalan Duta toll plaza and exited through the Kota Damansara toll plaza at 9:57:23pm.
Tun Abdul Majid: Transaction 62829?
Wan Abdullah: On
Oct 20, 2006, the user entered through Kota Damansara and exited through Jalan Duta at 12:01:26am.
Razak Baginda
Wan Abdullah also told Tun Abdul Majid, there was no chance of a Touch n’ Go card user’s transactions not being recorded when it is utilised. He however admitted the timing recorded on the print-out differed with the timing recorded on the closed-circuit television (CCTV) located at the toll plazas. The lapse of a few seconds, he explained was due to the separate software systems used by Rangkain Segar and the toll concessanaires.
Wan Abdullah told this when he was asked to look at the printouts of the CCTV recordings made at the toll plazas on
Oct 19, 2006.

Tun Abdul Majid also told the court, the police also sought for the information on Touch n’ Go cards registered under L/Cpl Rohaniza Roslan and Chief Insp Azilah Hadri.
Queried on the differing format in the printout produced by him and the one furnished by his former superior officer, Wan Abdullah said the additional two columns, showing other details of the transactions, could not be printed out by him as he did not have the necessary access.

Tun Abdul Majid then asked for an adjournment for them to summon Wan Abdullah’s former superior, who is now attached to Bank Islam in Kuala Lumpur to take to the witness stand.

ABOVE: Abdul Razak Baginda arriving in Court always looking up for daughter Roweena & Wife Mazlinda waiting up there and BELOW: The hooded ones coming out of the Car Park on Day 41 of Trial

During cross examination, Sirul’s defence counsel Kamarul Hisham Kamaruddin asked Wan Abdullah to explain the differences that were evident between ID 120 which was a transaction record of a Touch and Go which was printed on Nov 2, 2006 and P29 which is the same transaction details printed later on May 31, 2007.
Wan Abdullah also admitted he was not able to answer all the technical questions pertaining the operations of the computer programme as he does not have the expertise to do so. When Kamarul asked Wan Abdullah to explain why there were differences in the card refill date on the two documents, the latter replied: "This programme has a few versions, there is one version for customers, versions for banks and so on."
"The latest version has additional information which is to be updated by the call center," he added. Among the other discrepancies between the two documents were the fact that some of the entry toll plazas which were named in ID120 were not named in P29.

Kamarul: Do you have the expertise to explain why some of the toll plazas were named in one document but not in the other, and why this is so?
Wan Abdullah: No
Kamarul: This has to be referred to a programmer?
Wan Abdullah: Right
Kamarul: You can’t explain why it is named in one document and not in the other.
Wan Abdullah: Yes
Kamarul: You are not familiar with the computer programme and operating software and it’s usage.

Wan Abdullah: Right
Wan Abdullah said that he printed P29 but does not know who printed out ID120.

Kamarul also questioned Wan Abdullah on time differences recorded.
ID120 (Touch n Go transaction) stated that Sirul had exited Jalan Duta at
However the picture of his vehicle entering the PLUS Kota Damasara toll heading to Jalan Duta shows 7:14:47.

To this was Wan Abdullah said that there may be differences of a few minutes between the times shown by Plus Highway CCTVs and the time recorded by Touch n Go, however he said the discrepancies are not recorded anywhere.
Wan Abdullah also said that he could not tell if the Suzuki jeep in the picture was coming in or going out of the Kota Damansara toll.
He also agreed that he could not say for sure that the vehicle in the picture is the same vehicle using the Touch n Go card (which transaction is recorded in ID120).
The hearing continues tomorrow.

ABOVE & BELOW: Close up on the Hooded ones on Day 41 trial. The attire is different but who is who?

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