Review of Court’s Decision postponed; Lawyers want Revision be heard by Another Judge; PM & Chorus - Hindraf scrutinised - external links with Whom?
ABOVE & BELOW: The lawyers want a new Judge to hear the Revision case
The Shah Alam high Court today granted the defense counsel for the Hindraf leaders to adjourn to Dec 10, Monday the representation to the judgment made by the Klang session court to discharge the respondents. Judicial Commissioner Abang Iskandar Abang Hashim granted them the adjournment to give them more time to prepare the submission on the application by the AG to revise the session court judges ruling
ABOVE & BELOW: The supporters
The three were represented by 6 lawyers. The three were charged under the seditious act in the
When the lead singer gives the signal, the chorus follows in condemning Hindraf activities and imaginary ones. On the suspicions of the memo, more spices are added in to cook up the external linkages theories. As the AG has said it was based on someone’s police report. They have nothing yet and only started the investigations.
That SIL [Khairy Jamaluddin(ABOVE) must be talking through the roof (see Bottom report) when he declared
"recent developments in the country even showed opportunities had improved ?????????????? for the non-Malays in the government service."
Then the component parties started to sing. That MCA Ah Kiow Deputy mentioned as if the link is already established and said the “seeking support is an act of desperation” . MCA church mouse Ong K T's brother Ong K C and MIC Sothinathan on cue came in. And of course the well orchestrated DAMAI NGOs that cause the SMS scarce (about Kampong Baru) voiced their support.
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Hindraf trio's lawyers want judge to withdraw
SHAH ALAM: Lawyers representing three Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) leaders involved in a criminal revision case want presiding judge Judicial Commissioner Abang Iskandar Abang Hashim to discharge himself from hearing the matter. Abang Iskandar, they say, had worked directly under Attorney General (AG) Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail prior to becoming a Judicial Commissioner. The Attorney General’s Chambers had applied to review the
The letter also asked that the revision be heard by another judge, preferably a Court of Appeal judge. During the proceedings, counsel M. Manoharan (ABOVE, right, with P. Uthayakumar ) requested an adjournment of the hearing pending a reply and directions from the Chief Justice. Counsel A. Sri Murugan, who was assisting Manoharan, also asked the court why the AG’s Chambers had to seek a review of the
ABOVE: Counsel M. Manoharan with P. Uthayakumar and V. Ganabatirau
Abang Iskandar adjourned the case to Monday to give the defence more time to prepare for the review and stressed that the adjournment was not given pending a reply from the Chief Justice. Meanwhile, the solicitors representing the 31 Hindraf supporters denied bail by the Sessions Court here on Thursday applied for a revision of the court’s decision. The defence team also filed an appeal against the decision, which was made by Sessions Court judge Azimah Omar. Counsel G.K Ganesan filed both applications at the High Court criminal division registry here Friday.
ABOVE: Counsel M. Manoharan mobbed by supporters as he emerged from the Courtroom and BELOW with other Hindraf leaders
The defence team, in challenging the Session Court’s decision, stated that the judge had failed to exercise her discretion, had exercised her discretion “wrongly and that there was error on the face of the record.” The application also called the High Court to exercise its power granted under Section 323 and 327 of the Criminal Procedure Code to set aside Azimah’s decision and grant bail to the accused.
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PM Orders Police To Closely Monitor Hindraf's Activities
BATU PAHAT, Dec 7 (Bernama) -- Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Bahawi has ordered the police to keep a close watch on Hindu Rights Action Force's (Hindraf) activities, including its alleged links to international terrorist groups.
"I've asked the Inspector-General of Police (Tan Sri Musa Hassan) to monitor the group closely," the prime minister told reporters after opening the Johor Small and Medium Enterprises Exposition here today. Yesterday, Musa said there were signs that Hindraf had been canvassing for support and assistance from terrorist groups. According to the IGP, besides lobbying for support from overseas and seeking assistance from terrorist groups, Hindraf had also been raising funds for its cause. To a question, Abdullah, who is also Internal Security Minister, said the government would know what to do if Hindraf's actions reached dangerous levels. On suggestions that the Internal Security Act (ISA) be invoked against Hindraf activists, Abdullah said he had to study that option before making any decision.
In KUALA KANGSAR, Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Mohamed Nazri Abdul Aziz said the government was monitoring all Hindraf's activities to determine whether it had received support from abroad, especially terrorist groups. "We're monitoring them to see whether there are such linkages," he told reporters after presenting prizes to pupils who did well in the Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah (UPSR) examination here today. Nazri said the probe would take into account statements by Hindraf leaders who had allegedly stated that they were lobbying for support from overseas. He said the government would also look into remarks alleging that what was happening in
In KUANTAN, Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Fu Ah Kiow said it was clear that in seeking support from abroad, Hindraf was undermining the country's sovereignty. He said
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Thorough Probe On Alleged Hindraf Terror Links, Says A-G
"This is not a game, it is a very serious matter and I definitely take this very seriously. I really believe that an investigation has got to be done. It has to be done and it is definitely a concern," he told reporters when approached outside the High Court here. Abdul Gani was commenting on a statement by Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan today that there was evidence of Hindraf having strived to garner the support and help of the terrorist group in
"Somebody lodged a police report that there is ground that these people have been going out to (establish) contact with this LTTE. "I mentioned in court that there is a police report and that is our concern. If there is none, I wouldn't be worried. Shouldn't I be worried? I think everybody in this world is worried if there is any connection with terrorist groups," he said. Abdul Gani had raised the matter in court when asking the court not to grant bail to 31 people suspected to be Hindraf supporters who had taken part in an illegal assembly, with one of the grounds being that they were probably linked to the LTTE. The court did not record Abdul Gani's statement after strong opposition from the defence lawyers
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Hindraf Seeking Terrorist Groups' Help, Says IGP
Musa said the unregistered body had also set up a fund by deceiving the people to fund their activities. Musa said Hindraf was helmed by six prime movers comprising five lawyers and a senior executive of a private company. He said Hindraf was persistently inflamming sensitive and dangerous sentiments through forums, distribution of books and leaflets, posting messages on websites and via short messaging service (SMS) to garner support from Indians. He also said they masterminded the opposition of a group of Indians against a local authority for demolishing Hindu temples built illegally and alleged that the demolition was exploiting the religious freedom in the country. "They also planned to use gangsters to block demolition of temples by local authorities in future," he said.
Musa said latest developments showed Hindraf leaders are lobbying for international support from
"The police are concerned over Hindraf's activities and will not hesitate to take harsh action to guarantee the nation's peace and security," he said. Musa said Hindraf had made false, baseless and slanderous allegations that the government had marginalised the Indians, had deprived them of their rights in the economic and education fields and positions in the government to the extent that the community was backward even after 50 years of independence. The Inspector-General of Police said Hindraf had defied the law and went ahead to stage the Nov 25 Street protests because its real motive was to create chaos in the federal capital. "But instead they twisted the incident and accused the police of using force on their supporters. "They also cheated the Indians who attended the illegal gathering when they did not hand in the petition to the British High Commission despite having the opportunity to do so," he said.
Musa advised the people not to be deceived by the ploys and rumours spread through the Internet and SMSes by irresponsible elements to create anxiety and uneasiness to the people to worsen the situation. He said rumour mongers floating rumours and spreading false information are committing an offence under Section 23 of the Internal Security Act 1960, which carries a fine of not more than RM10,000 or a jail term of not more than three years or both, if convicted.
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395 NGOs Condemn Street Demonstrations
Damai 
The MCA man Dr Ayam (ABOVE, Bottom left) and BELOW - in necktie was there. He also led the Anti-BERSIH Demo in Bukit Bintang recently, details H E R E
The joint statement said the NGOs, among other things, opposed the use of race and religion to sow hatred among the people. They also condemned individuals or organisations who/which deceive, slander, and incite or perpetrate racial feelings, and drag in outsiders to interfere in the country's domestic affairs.
"Damai
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Indians Manipulated In A Dangerous Way, Says Sothinathan
By Shahrullizan Rusli
PORT DICKSON, Dec 6 (Bernama) -- While reminding Indians that they were being manipulated in a dangerous way, MIC vice-president Datuk S. Sothinathan today expressed the hope that they do not fall into the trap of a group claiming to be championing their plight. He said the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) should not have played up racial and religious issues but they knew those were the issues that could easily arouse public sentiments. "It's the MIC which has fought for them so that the Indian community could have access to job and educational opportunities. Then all of a sudden, another group is trying to replace us," he told Bernama here today. Sothinathan, who is Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Environment, said Hindraf had gone too far when it accused the MIC of doing nothing for the Indians for the past 50 years. "If Hindraf is sincere, then why does it refuse to cooperate with the MIC. This goes to show that it (Hindraf) cannot accept the systems that we have, it refuses to accept the Barisan Nasional (BN) system of government and tries to establish something new without regards for the sensitivities of the other races," he said.
Sothinathan said he himself was not satisfied with the achievements of the Indian community so far. "That is only normal and that is what the MIC is fighting for, (ANOTHER 50 MORE YEARS??????????) but not through street demonstrations. "This is human psychology; if we are content with what we have, that means we are not progressing. The Malays and the Chinese are also not satisfied but they strive to improve their lot." Sothinathan said he had received numerous SMSes claiming that the BN government did not provide opportunities for the Indians and asked the people to vote for Parti Keadilan Rakyat and DAP.
"So we knew of the opposition's role behind all these," he added. [This is to be expected, common sense, drying your clothes while the sun is shinning!] Sothinathan admitted that there had been problems in struggling for the interest of the Indian community, but those were challenges that the MIC had to tackle. "The MIC has been in existence since 1946. We have gone through many challenges before, so this (Hindraf's claim) is not difficult [wait for another 50 years??????] to overcome. We can explain to the people and at the same time ask the government to provide more opportunities for the Indian community," he said.
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Khairy Says Govt Shouldn't Meet Hindraf Members
Hindraf had claimed that some 100 Indians were killed in Kampung Medan but the police had put the official death toll at only six. Selangor Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Khir Toyo had explained that the Kampung Medan riots resulted from a misunderstanding between some people in the village following a funeral procession during a wedding ceremony. Khairy said one should only associate ethnic cleansing with what had happened in the former
Refuting allegations that the Indian community had not done well in the country, Khairy said one just had to look at the number of Indian professionals like lawyers and doctors in the country. However, he admitted that the government had not done enough for the Indians in the country. But he was quick to add that the government had also not done enough for the Malays( ([overdone but badly cooked !!) and Chinese in the country. "No government in the world is perfect but this government has delivered a lot (& pocketed much more] in the past 50 years," he said. Khairy did stress that the root of ethnic tensions must be addressed quickly. "If we don't do that, we are really in trouble in terms of nation building," he said.
Khairy also said that a lot of problems that society faced today was due to lack of religious understanding and tolerance. "I think we need to understand ourselves better, understand others better and understand the requirements of each separate groups better and understand where the other person is coming from." Khairy also spoke of the scenario in the aftermath of the May 13 riots and highlighted two main objectives of the New Economic Policy that came out as a result -- the eradication of poverty and identification of race with economic functions. He said the affirmative action had reduced the stereotyping of economic functions usually identified with a particular race and that recent developments in the country even showed opportunities had improved ?????????????? for the non-Malays in the government service.
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MCA: Hindraf's allegations of 'ethnic cleansing' in M'sia baseless
Ng Kee Seng , theSUN
PETALING JAYA (
"It is obvious Anwar is going all out to exploit the issue for his political gain. It is in fact a desperate attempt to revive his waning political strength in the country," said Ong. He said MCA and the government remained committed to helping the poor irrespective of race. "The government will view the grievances of the Indian community seriously and continue to take action to resolve them amicably through the mechanism of the Barisan Nasional government at all levels. Indian community leaders are urged to channel their views and grievances through proper channels, especially through MIC representatives, so that issues can be resolved effectively."
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