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UPDATE 12 17th Nov 2006; 13:50pm
ABOVE: The Mongolian Radio/TV network "NewsTSAHim" has been been providing a link to this site for the past week for the constant updates of the events. Check it out h e r e.
And the Hits to this site were staggering from an average daily of 500 to 3194 today (see below)
The spike was of course when the announcement was made that a prominent analyst was involved and and everyone wanted to know (on wednesday 8th Nov). The hits were mainly from forums etc and subsequently the relentless search from google & yahoo and othe "unknown" search Engines. (details later)
It looks like the PRESENT POINT POWER can reach the 100,000 hit mark within 7 months (starting on 12th May 2006)
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and some dramatic reporting from the STAR;
Razak Baginda charged with abetting duo; By CHELSEA L.Y. NG
KUALA LUMPUR: Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda has been charged at a magistrate’s court here with abetting in the murder of Mongolian beauty Altantuya Shaariibuu. The 46-year-old Abdul Razak was accused of abetting C/Insp Azilah Hadri and Kpl Sirul Azhar Umar to commit the crime, which ended with the body of the 28-year-old Altantuya being blown to bits with explosives. Abdul Razak, whose name was stated as Abdul Razak Abdullah in the charge sheet, was indicted yesterday - just a day after the two policemen from the Special Action Force (better known as Unit Tindakan Khas) were accused of killing Altantuya in Shah Alam. Abdul Razak is alleged to have committed the offence between 9.54am and 11.05am on Oct 18 at Level 10, Bangunan Getah Asli, 148, Jalan Ampang, here - the official address of the Malaysian Strategic Research Centre, of which he is the head. He was charged under Section 109 of the Penal Code read together with Section 302 of the same code. If convicted, he will be sentenced to death.
The complainant in this case was stated as Namiraa Gerelmaa, a friend of the victim. Before Abdul Razak was brought into the courtroom yesterday, suspense filled the air. All eyes were on the lock-up, when a creaking sound was heard from inside at 12.42pm. A few minutes later, the lock-up door opened and the political analyst emerged wearing a light blue, long sleeved shirt and dark pants, similar to what he was wearing when he was first remanded on Nov 8. As Abdul Razak stepped out, his wife Mazlinda Makhzan embraced him, and lay her head on his left shoulder. She then gave her tired-looking and unshaven husband a light kiss on a cheek before uttering something to him. Abdul Razak, who was handcuffed, was then ushered into the dock by the courthouse’s officer-in-charge. Asst Supt Zulkifli Osman. He took his seat before one of his counsels, M. Puravalen, spoke to him. As the lawyer briefed him, the tired look on Abdul Razak’s face slowly turned into a frown. During the proceedings, which lasted barely five minutes, the political analyst put on a pair of glasses before the charge was read to him. After the interpreter finished reading the charge, Abdul Razak nodded to indicate that he understood it.
However, no plea was recorded from the political analyst and bail was also not offered. DPP Salehuddin Saidin, who appeared with DPP Noorin Badaruddin, requested magistrate Aizatul Akmal Maharani to transfer the case to the High Court. Aizatul allowed the request but did not fix any date for mention. DPP Salehuddin later told reporters that the prosecution would apply for the case to be jointly heard in Shah Alam, together with the murder charge against C/Insp Azilah and Kpl Sirul Azhar.
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Wife maintains political analyst is innocent
KUALA LUMPUR: Abdul Razak Baginda’s wife Mazlinda Makhzan repeatedly maintained that her husband is innocent and alleged that he had been framed. “He is a good man. He is not the Prime Minister of this country. He doesn’t want to be one. “He is not interested in all that,” she said during an outburst in court before Abdul Razak was charged yesterday. Mazlinda, a former magistrate, was complaining about media reports concerning the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu. One of Abdul Razak’s lawyers, M. Puravalen, quickly got up and consoled her. As he hugged her,
Mazlinda was heard muttering “So bad. Kekejaman (Cruelty).” While the charge was being read out to Abdul Razak, his daughter Rowina, 19, was heard calling out softly but firmly: “Be strong, be strong.” Soon after the five-minute court proceedings ended at 12.50pm, Mazlinda left the courtroom saying that there was nothing to be ashamed of. She was also chanting “He is innocent, he is innocent” while Rowina tailed behind her saying “absolutely.” By 2pm, Abdul Razak’s leading counsel Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah was seen leaving the courthouse together with his client’s family members, who included the political analyst’s parents. When approached, Shafee said he had only spent 10 minutes with Abdul Razak to explain the court procedures to him. He said Abdul Razak would first be sent to the Sungai Buloh prison before being taken to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital where he had been treated for chest infection. Asked how Abdul Razak was holding up, Shafee said “Not well,” before ending the conversation with the press.
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UPDATE 11 17th Nov 2006; 6:30am
A summary of the Saga of the Miuder of Altantuya Shraariibuu
Police Complete Probe Into Altantuya's Murder Case In Three Weeks; November 16, 2006 21:52 PM KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 16 (Bernama) -- The police took three weeks to complete their investigation into the murder of a Mongolian woman, Altantuya Shaariibuu, which led to the arrest and indictment of a political analyst and two policemen from the Special Action Squad (UTK). The case drew wide media coverage and was followed closely in the country and Mongolia because of the woman's romantic link with a Malaysian man and the manner in which she is believed to have been killed -- shot dead and the body blown up with explosives in the jungle near Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam in Selangor. Altantuya, a part-time model of 28 from Ulan Bator, was reported to have come to Kuala Lumpur to look for her lover but paid with her life. The political analyst, Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda, 46, was charged in the Kuala Lumpur Magistrate's Court Thursday with abetment in the murder of Altantuya. He was charged under Section 109 of the Penal Code, read together with Section 302 of the same code, which carries the mandatory death sentence upon conviction. Yesterday, Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, were charged in the Shah Alam Magistrate's Court for murdering the woman. Following is a chronology of the events leading up to the indictment of the three persons:
* Oct 9: Altantuya, younger sister Altantzul Shaariibuu, 27, and a cousin, Burma alias Amy, 28, arrive in Kuala Lumpur and stay at a hotel in Jalan Petaling, Kuala Lumpur.
* Oct 10: Altantuya is said to have engaged a private investigator to trace a Malaysian man.
* Oct 21: Altantuya's sister and cousin make a police report on her disappearance on Oct 19. Police investigate and pick up a woman lance corporal from the Petaling Jaya Police Station. * *Oct 26: Chief Insp Azilah of the UTK in Bukit Aman is arrested.
*Nov 6: Corporal Sirul Azhar of the UTK in Bukit Aman is arrested.
* Nov 7: Police find bits of Altantuya's remains near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. Abdul Razak is picked up at his office in Jalan Ampang, Kuala Lumpur. Sirul Azhar is remanded until Nov 13 to help with the investigation into the murder.
* Nov 8: Abdul Razak is remanded for five days until Nov 12 to help with the investigation into a kidnapping. Azilah and the woman lance corporal are remanded until Nov 13 to help with the investigation into the murder.
* Nov 9: Two private investigators, aged 35 and 46, are remanded until Nov 13 to help in the investigation into criminal intimidation. Altantuya's father, Shaariibuu Setev, accompanied by three relatives arrive in Kuala Lumpur and stay at a hotel in Bukit Bintang, Kuala Lumpur, to assist police in their investigation. Shaariibuu gives evidence at the Kuala Lumpur police headquarters.
* Nov 10: Shaariibuu gives his DNA sample to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital to help determine whether the remains found at Puncak Alam are that of Altantuya. DNA samples are also taken from Abdul Razak and the three police personnel.
* Nov 11: Abdul Razak is admitted to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital for treatment of a lung infection and asthma.
* Nov 12: The remand order on Abdul Razak is extended by two more days.
* Nov 13: The remand orders on the three police personnel are extended further while the two private investigators are released.
* Nov 14: The remand order on Abdul Razak is extended by two more days.
* Nov 15: Azilah and Sirul Azhar are charged in the Shah Alam Magistrate's Court for the murder of Altantuya under Section 302 of the Penal Code, which carries a mandatory death sentence upon conviction. The woman lance corporal is released on police bail. The DNA test confirms that the remains found at Puncak Alam are that of Altantuya.
* Nov 16: Abdul Razak is charged in the Kuala Lumpur Magistrate's Court with abetment in the murder of Altantuya under Section 109 of the Penal Code, read together with Section 302 of the same code, which carries the mandatory death sentence upon conviction.
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Speculation Ends, Razak Baginda Charged With Abetment; November 16, 2006 23:00 PM ; KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 16 (Bernama) -- After weeks of speculation over the gruesome murder of Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu, police Thursday charged prominent political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda with abetment in her murder. The 46-year-old head of a local think-tank, whose remand order was to expire Thursday, was charged in the Kuala Lumpur Magistrate's Court here under Section 109 of the Penal Code read together with Section 302 of the same code. He faces the mandatory death sentence, if convicted. The analyst, who is said to be romantically linked to the 28 year-old victim, allegedly abetted Chief Insp Azilah Hadri, 30, and Kpl Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, both attached to the Bukit Aman Special Action Force (SAC), in committing the offence. He is alleged to have committed the abetment between 9.54am and 11.05am on Oct 18 at the 10th Floor of Bangunan Getah Asli in Jalan Ampang here. No plea was recorded from Razak. Section 109 of the Penal Code reads: Punishment of abetment if the act abetted is committed in consequence, and where no express provision is made for its punishment. Section 302 of the code reads: Whoever commits murder shall be punished with death. Altantuya is believed to have been shot before her body was blown to bits with explosives in a secondary jungle at the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, near Shah Alam, three weeks ago. Magistrate Azatul Akmal Maharani ordered the case to be transferred to the High Court under Section 177A of the Criminal Procedure Code (CPC) following an application by Deputy Public Prosecutor Salehuddin Saidin. Salehuddin told reporters later that the court had not set a date for mention. Wednesday, Azilah and Sirul were jointly charged in the Magistrate's Court with the murder of Altantuya.
Azilah, believed to be from Sarawak, had been an investigating officer with the Sepang district police for at least five years before he joined the SAC squad in 2002. A bachelor, he is said to be in a relationship with a policewoman, who was also remanded in connection with the case, but later released. Sirul, who is assigned to the police's escort unit, was part of the Prime Minister's security detail in Pakistan when he was arrested and brought back to Kuala Lumpur last week. He is married with a child. With the charging of the trio, the police have proven their professionalism in handling high-profile criminal cases, which has received praise from Mongolian Ambassador to Malaysia Yaichil Batsuuri. The Federal Criminal Investigation Department headed by Datuk Christopher Wan Soo Kee which handled the case, swung into action and narrowed down their investigation by immediately arresting those people who were believed to have made last contact with victim. Initially, Azilah, Sirul and a woman lance corporal attached to the Petaling Jaya anti-vice unit were picked up and remanded by police to assist the probe into the murder.
Police also detained two private investigators, who apparently had been hired by Altantuya to assist her to look for Razak before she was murdered. However, police released the two private investigators on Saturday and the policewoman Wednesday. It is learnt that all three will be crucial prosecution witnesses in the murder trial. Altantuya's brutal murder received wide coverage both here and in Mongolia following speculation that apart from being shot, explosives were also used to blow her body to pieces. Said to be a stunning beauty, she flew from Ulan Bator to Malaysia on Oct 6 together with her sister and a cousin in search of the political analyst. When she went missing on Oct 19, her sister and cousin lodged a police report and later sought help from the Mongolian Embassy in Bangkok. Further investigations led police to the dam site near Puncak Alam, Shah Alam, where some blown up body parts were found. DNA tests confirmed the remains were Atlantuya's.
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UPDATE 10 16th Nov 2006; 23:15pm
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Syed Hamid said: "No, we didn't discuss that... because once it is in the court, leave it to the court to decide."
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 16 (Bernama) -- Mongolia has expressed its appreciation for the swift action by Malaysian authorities in the investigation into the murder of its national, Altantuya Shaariibuu, Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said Thursday. They have expressed their appreciation to us for taking such quick and efficient action on this... they don't question our system or our law because they know that once the case is being decided or put to the court, it is up to the court to decide," he told reporters. Syed Hamid said the appreciation was conveyed to him by Mongolian Ambassador to Malaysia Yaichil Batsuuri, who is resident in Bangkok, during the latter's courtesy call on him at the Putra World Trade Centre (PWTC) where the minister is attending the Umno general assembly. Replying to a question, Syed Hamid, who is a member of the Umno Supreme Council, said they did not discuss the murder case. "No, we didn't discuss that... because once it is in the court, leave it to the court to decide. I think they (Mongolia) understand what the rule of law is," he said. Syed Hamid said Yaichil's visit here had nothing to do with the murder case and that it was purely an official visit to present his credentials to the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail, adding that usually an ambassador would make a courtesy call on the foreign minister on such an occasion. "In fact this (the presentation of credentials) was arranged much earlier... before this case even came up... nothing to do with it," he said. Asked whether there was any other letter besides the credentials document, Syed Hamid: "There were no other letters. This is a credentials presentation. During a credentials presentation, you give no other letter except the letter of good wishes and credence from his president to our king that this person has been appointed as ambassador." Altantuya's brutal murder received wide coverage both here and in Mongolia following speculation that her body was blown up with explosives after she was shot dead. So far, three people have been charged in connection with the murder, one of them political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda who was charged in the Magistrate's Court today with abetment in the murder. He is alleged to have abetted with police chief inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and police corporal Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, who were charged Wednesday with the murder. Syed Hamid said he reaffirmed to the ambassador the good relations enjoyed by Kuala Lumpur and Ulan Bator. He said Mongolia, the 19th largest country in the world but with a population of only 2.8 million, was keen to organise a trade visit to Malaysia. Syed Hamid said Yaichil also touched on the possibility of a visit by Mongolian President Nambaryn Enkhbayar to Malaysia next year. He said there were about 350 Mongolian students in Malaysia while six Mongolians were undergoing training at the Customs Department. Syed Hamid said Yaichil had requested for Malaysia to offer scholarships for Mongolians to attend Malaysian universities for first and Masters degrees, adding that Mongolia was also keen to send officials for training at the Institute of Diplomacy and Foreign Relations (IDFR).
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Mongolian Ambassador to Malaysia Yaichil Batsuuri
Envoy Praises Police For Professionalism In Mongolian Murder Case; November 16, 2006 19:31 PMPETALING JAYA, Nov 16 (Bernama) -- Mongolian Ambassador to Malaysia Yaichil Batsuuri Thursday praised Malaysian police for their professionalism in handling the murder of a Mongolian woman in Shah Alam last month. By their swift action, the police have proven their professionalism in handling high-profile criminal cases, he said, adding that he was satisfied with the way the police had acted in the case.
The police investigation into the murder of Mongolian freelance model Altantuya Shaariibuu has resulted in the prosecution of three people, one of them prominent political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda. Abdul Razak, 46, was charged in the Kuala Lumpur Magistrate's Court today with abetment in the murder of Altantuya, 28. Wednesday, police chief inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and police corporal Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, both attached to the Bukit Aman Special Action Force, were charged in the Shah Alam Magistrate's Court with the murder of the Mongolian in the Bukit Raja mukim of Selangor between 10 am on Oct 19 and 1 am the following day. Yachil, who is resident in Bangkok, also said that he was "very sad" over the murder and expressed his deepest sympathies to the family and relatives of Altantuya. "I strongly believe and hope that the relevant authorities of Malaysia will take the appropriate measures to resolve this case according to the laws and norms of Malaysia," he told reporters after visiting Mongolian students at Sunway College in Bandar Sunway, here.
The Ambassador met 32 Mongolian students at Bandar Sunway
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Earlier, Yaichil handed his credentials as Mongolian ambassador to Malaysia to the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail, at the Istana Negara in Kuala Lumpur. At the audience with the king, contrary to earlier media reports, Yaichil did not raise any issue pertaining to Altantuya's murder, said Mongolia's honorary consul in Malaysia, Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi. "But he had a private discussion with Inspector General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan, who was also present at the Istana Negara, on the procedure to take home the remains of Altantuya," he added. Altantuya's bone fragments were recovered by police from the site in Shah Alam where she is believed to have been shot dead and her body blown up with explosives.
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Yes, NOT committed by him, O N L Y abetting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ABOVE & BELOW: The suspect (hand-cuffed behind) walking into the courtroom to face the charge
Abdul Razak Baginda charged with abetment to murder of Mongolian; , from STAR Nation; Thursday November 16, 2006;KUALA LUMPUR: Political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda was charged at the magistrate's court here at 12.48pm with abetment to the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaaribuu.
ABOVE & BELOW: Close Family members entering the courtroom
ABOVE: Other Close family members attending court
The court room was packed with Razak's family and relatives as well as newsmen. No plea was recorded. Yesterday, two police personnel - C/Insp Azilah Hadri, 30, and Kpl Sirul Azhar Umar, 35- were charged with her murder. Abdul Razak was initially arrested for questioning in connection with the abduction of 28-year-old Altantuya but was later remanded to facilitate investigations into her murder. On Nov 6, police found skeletal fragments believed to be that of Altantuya’s on a hilltop in Puncak Alam in Shah Alam.
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ABOVE: The overflowing crowd at the corridor only, as inside was packed
and more details from BERNAMA;
Razak Baginda Charged With Abetting Mongolian Woman's Murder; November 16, 2006 13:42 PM KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 16 (Bernama) -- Political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda was charged in the magistrate's court here Thursday with abetment in the gruesome murder of Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu. The 46-year-old head of a local think-tank was charged under Section 109 of the Penal Code and read together with Section 302 of the same code, which carries the mandatory death sentence, upon conviction. No plea was recorded from Razak. He was alleged to have committed the offence between 9.54am and 11.05am on Oct 18 at the 10th Floor of Bangunan Getah Asli in Jalan Ampang here. He allegedly abetted chief inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and corporal Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, to commit the offence.
Yesterday, Azilah and Sirul Azhar, both attached to the Bukit Aman Special Action Force, were charged at the Shah Alam magistrate's court, with the murder of the 28-year-old beauty. Altantuya is believed to have been shot before her body was blown to bits with explosives in a secondary jungle at Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, near Shah Alam, three weeks ago. The court proceeding lasted less than 15 minutes. He was brought to the court at about 12.40pm. Razak, who was clad in a light-blue shirt and dark pants, just nodded his head when the court interpreter asked him whether he understood the charge. He did not show much reaction and remained calm throughout the proceedings.
Magistrate Azatul Akmal Maharani ordered the case to be transferred to the High Court under Section 177A of the Criminal Procedure Code following an application by the Deputy Public Prosecutor Salehuddin Saidin. Salehuddin told reporters later that the court had not set the date for mention. "Once the date is set, the prosecution will make an application for the case to be transferred to the Shah Alam High Court for a joint trial with Azilah and Sirul Azhar. Razak's counsel Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah and his defence team left the court immediately. They declined to comment on the charge. Local and foreign journalists were at the court as early as 8am after receiving information that Razak will be charged at the Kuala Lumpur Court and not at Shah Alam. Razak's family members and his lawyers arrived at about 11am and entered the Magistrate's Court No 8 when they were told he will be charged before Magistrate Syahrin Jeli Bohari. While waiting for the proceedings, Razak's wife, Mazlinda Makhzan, raised her voice in the packed courtroom, shouting at journalists, saying her husband was innocent. "Why are you all (media) doing this to him...the murder was not committed by him," she screamed.
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UPDATE 9 16th Nov 2006; 12:30pm
Altantuya was never a fashion model, says mum; Thursday November 16, 2006; By EDDIE CHUA; newsdesk@thestar.com.my
ULAN BATOR: The 28-year-old Mongolian woman whose bone fragments were found in the jungle in Shah Alam was no fashion model. Neither did she have a 16-month-old son. Altantuya Shaaribuu’s mother Sh Altantsetseg, who refused to be interviewed by The Star, told a local daily Truth that certain stories about her daughter were wrong. “My daughter had only two children, aged 10 and three. There was no 16-month-old kid.” In the article published in the Mongolian language paper yesterday, she confirmed that Altantuya had a mole on her upper lip removed. “My daughter had it removed not long ago. The mole was getting bigger. That is why surgery was done.” Altantsetseg said her daughter was never married to Malaysian political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda, who had been remanded to assist in investigations into the murder of Altantuya. HOT NEWS: A Mongolian newspaper carrying Altantuya’s story.The following are excerpts of the interview published in Truth:
Truth: How did you find out about your daughter’s murder?
Altantsetseg: From her girlfriend.
Did she go to KL with Altantuya?
Yes, Altantuya’s documents were in her purse. Her name is Uuree.
What did Altantuya say about her trip to Malaysia?
Business trip. To meet a business partner ... an investor.
Is it true that Altantuya’s father Shaaribuu went to Malaysia with Abdul Razak’s child to prove that the kid is his?
No it’s not true. Shaaribuu went to Malaysia last week. He has been in contact with me since. He flew to Malaysia last Tuesday after hearing news of our daughter’s death.
How did you hear about the news?
Altantuya’s girlfriend was looking for her after she disappeared. She had spoken to the honorary consul. When three policemen were arrested, and she learnt that a Mongolian woman had been killed, she called us. We were shocked. We cried, we were sad and they (Malaysian government) asked for my blood to conduct the test. So my husband took it with him when he went to Malaysia.
Do you think there was a relationship between Abdul Razak and your daughter?
Maybe they had a business relationship, I don’t know. I just heard about him.
So, perhaps the story about Abdul Razak is false?
I think my daughter knew him. But we don’t know him. I only came to know about him through the pictures in the newspapers. Both of them had never married. That is false information.
So the stories about Altantuya being married to him, that they have a 16-month-old boy, and she had gone to KL to get money from Abdul Razak ...
Not true! The younger boy’s father is a Mongolian.
Has she ever been to Malaysia?
Only once, for business.
Do you know what kind of business?
I think she talked to potential investors, to bring them to Mongolia. I’m not sure.
Did she own a company?
She just opened one, but it didn’t do that well. I heard about her opening another company in Hong Kong.
What was her profession?
She was in Russia when she was in first grade elementary school. Shaaribuu and I were working in Russia and we took both our daughters there. Altantuya’s sister was in kindergarten then. Two years later we moved to Leningrad. Then we returned to Mongolia. Altantuya was studying in a Russian school. She was really good with language. She studied French, and she was fluent in Russian and English.
Did she live with you?
She lived with her two sons ... I don’t want to talk about her private life.
Was Maadai her husband?
My daughter’s older son is Maadai’s son. He is the father of the 10-year-old child.
Do you have contact with Maadai?
Of course, we have. But my daughter never asked money from him.
When did Altantuya model?
She never did. People think she was a model because she was pretty.
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Altantuya murder case: Razak to be charged; By LOURDES CHARLES;
lourdes@thestar.com.my ; Thursday November 16, 2006
KUALA LUMPUR:
Political analyst Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda is to be charged today with abetting in the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu.
It is learnt Abdul Razak whose remand order expires today is to be produced before a magistrate’s court here to answer to abetment charges under Section 109 of the Penal Code to be read together with Section 302 of the same code. Abdul Razak, Initially arrested for questioning in connection with the abduction of Altantuya. Section 109 of the Penal Code reads: Punishment of abetment if the act abetted is committed in consequence, and where no express provision is made for its punishment while Section 302 reads: Punishment for murder. Whoever commits murder shall be punished with death. Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Ghani Patail confirmed that Abdul Razak is to be charged this morning but declined to comment on the charges. Abdul Razak was initially arrested for questioning in connection with the abduction of 28-year-old Altantuya but was later remanded to facilitate investigations into her murder. On Nov 6 police found skeletal fragments believed to be that of Altantuya’s on a hilltop in Puncak Alam in Shah Alam. Bernama reported that DNA tests have confirmed that the pieces of human body found near Subang Dam about a week ago belonged to Altantuya. According to sources, police received the report on the DNA tests from the Chemistry Department on Tuesday. “The tests were made possible with the police having invited Altantuya's family to come to Malaysia to assist in the investigations,” said a source. Altantuya's father, Shaariibuu Setev, who arrived here last Thursday, was taken to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital the following day for samples to be taken from him to facilitate the tests. Three police personnel, including a chief inspector and a woman detective, were arrested in connection with the incident. A chief inspector and a corporal were charged with Altantuya’s murder at the Shah Alam magistrate’s court yesterday. The woman detective was released on police bail.
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DNA Test Confirms Body Parts To Be Mongolian Woman's; November 15, 2006 20:28 PM KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 15 (Bernama) -- DNA tests have confirmed that the pieces of a human body found near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Selangor, about a week ago belonged to Mongolian freelance model Altantuya Shaariibuu, according to sources. The sources said police received the report on the DNA tests from the Petaling Jaya Chemistry Department, Tuesday. "The DNA tests were made possible with the police having invited Altantuya's family to come to Malaysia to assist in the investigations," said a source. Altantuya's father, Shaariibuu Setev, who arrived here last Thursday, was taken to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital the following day for samples to be taken from him to facilitate the DNA tests. Altantuya alias Aminah, 28, is believed to have been shot and her body blown up with explosives near the Subang Dam about three weeks ago. Wednesday, Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and Constable Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, both from the Special Action Unit in Bukit Aman, were jointly charged in the Magistrate's Court with murdering Altantuya in the Bukit Raja Mukim of Selangor between 10 am on Oct 19 and 1 am the following day. They were among four people remanded by the police to assist in the investigation into Altantuya's murder. The other two are a policewoman and a political analyst. The policewoman, a lance corporal, was released on police bail today, according to a senior officer of the Prosecution Unit in the Attorney-General's Chambers, but the analyst is still under remand to help with the probe.
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DNA TEST Confirmed remains were from Altantuya;Two Malaysian policemen Charged With the murder of a Mongolian model; NO PLEA Recorded, DEC 14 Mention DATE; Police woman released on Bail
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DNA Test Confirms Body Parts To Be Mongolian Woman's; November 15, 2006 20:28 PM KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 15 (Bernama) -- DNA tests have confirmed that the pieces of a human body found near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Selangor, about a week ago belonged to Mongolian freelance model Altantuya Shaariibuu, according to sources. The sources said police received the report on the DNA tests from the Petaling Jaya Chemistry Department, Tuesday. "The DNA tests were made possible with the police having invited Altantuya's family to come to Malaysia to assist in the investigations," said a source. Altantuya's father, Shaariibuu Setev, who arrived here last Thursday, was taken to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital the following day for samples to be taken from him to facilitate the DNA tests. Altantuya alias Aminah, 28, is believed to have been shot and her body blown up with explosives near the Subang Dam about three weeks ago. Wednesday, Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and Constable Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, both from the Special Action Unit in Bukit Aman, were jointly charged in the Magistrate's Court with murdering Altantuya in the Bukit Raja Mukim of Selangor between 10 am on Oct 19 and 1 am the following day. They were among four people remanded by the police to assist in the investigation into Altantuya's murder. The other two are a policewoman and a political analyst. The policewoman, a lance corporal, was released on police bail today, according to a senior officer of the Prosecution Unit in the Attorney-General's Chambers, but the analyst is still under remand to help with the probe.
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Policewoman Helping With Mongolian Murder Probe Out On Police Bail; November 15, 2006 20:13 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 15 (Bernama) -- A policewoman helping police in the investigation into the murder of a Mongolian woman in Malaysia was released on police bail, Wednesday. The lance corporal, in her mid-20s, from the Petaling Jaya district police headquarters had been in remand since Nov 7 to help with the probe into the murder of Altantuya Shaariibuu, 28. A senior officer of the Prosecution Unit in the Attorney-General's Chambers, when contacted, confirmed the release of the policewoman but declined to say anything more. A chief inspector and a constable who were remanded along with the policewoman were charged in the Magistrate's Court, Wednesday with the murder of Altantuya. Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and Constable Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, both from the Special Action Unit in Bukit Aman, were jointly charged with murdering Altantuya in the Bukit Raja Mukim of Selangor between 10 am on Oct 19 and 1 am the following day. No plea was recorded and Magistrate Hafizah Abdul Rajak set Dec 14 for mention in the High Court. Two private investigators, also remanded to help with the investigation, were released on police bail last Saturday but a political analyst is still under remand to help with the probe.
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UPDATE 8 15th Nov 2006; 17:30pm . More Satellite pictures uploaded.......
ABOVE: At the Shah Alam Court today and the "Black Maria" (BELOW) van bringing the two policemen
Two Police Personnel Charged With Murdering Altantuya; November 15, 2006 15:20 PM SHAH ALAM, Nov 15 (Bernama) -- Two police personnel from the Special Action Unit (UTK) Bukit Aman were charged in the magistrate's court here Wednesday with the murder of Mongolian part-time model Altantuya Shaariibuu.
ABOVE: Sirul Azhar Umar,35,(black shirt) and chief Inspector Azilah Hadri,30,(green shirt) being led away from the Shah Alam magistrate court.
Chief inspector Azilah Hadri, 30, and constable Sirul Azhar Umar, 35, were jointly charged with murdering Altantuya, 28, at a location between Lot 12843 and Lot 16735 in Mukim Bukit Raja, Selangor, between 10am on Oct 19 and 1am the following day. No plea was recorded and magistrate Hafizah Abdul Rajak set Dec 14 for mention at the High Court. Deputy public prosecutors Salehuddin Saidin and Noorin Badaruddin appeared for the prosecution while the two accused were represented by counsel Shaun Tan Kee Shaan. Counsel Frida Krishnan and Badrul Munir Bukhari held a watching brief for a political analyst who has been remanded to help in investigation into the case. Earlier, Tan raised a preliminary objection saying that the investigation against his clients was not transparent.
ABOVE & BELOW; More pictures the two Policemen charged with Murder, front & back views. Sirul Azhar Umar,35,(black shirt) and chief Inspector Azilah Hadri,30,(green shirt) being led away from the Shah Alam magistrate court.
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ABOVE : The crowds at the court
However, Salehuddin said the objection had nothing to do with today's proceedings in view that the defence did not have access to the police nvestigation. Tan said it was important to inform the court of the matter because he was not given any information as to whether his clients were to be charged in Kuala Lumpur or Shah Alam. Salehudin said the investigation depended on the police and where the accused were charged depended on where the alleged offence was committed as provided by law. Hafizah then dismissed the objection and allowed the charge to be read out to the two. Earlier, chaos reigned when the crowd jostled to get a closer view of Azilah and Sirul as the black maria transporting them pulled up at the courthouse at 11.35am. Azilah, in a green T-shirt and blue track pants, and Sirul, in a black shirt and pants, were escorted by about 20 police personnel in plainclothes and uniform. The scores of photographers and cameramen who had waited since early morning to snap pictures of the two had a hard time doing their job. Tan told reporters later that he had been denied the right to meet and speak to his clients. His attempts to meet the investigating officer to get information on his clients had also been in vain. "I did not get to see my clients until today when I only met them for a few minutes before they were taken into court," he said. The murder of Altantuya @ Aminah, from Ulan Bator, has received wide coverage by the local and international press after she was said to have been shot and her body blown to bits at the Subang Dam.
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Two policemen charged with Mongolian model's murder; Wednesday November 15, 2006
KUALA LUMPUR: Two Malaysian policemen were charged Wednesday with the murder of a Mongolian model. Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Constable Sirul Azhar Umar have been accused of murdering the Mongolian woman, Altantuya Shaariibuu, on the night of Oct. 19 and Oct. 20 in a forest area outside Kuala Lumpur, deputy public prosecutor Noorin Badaruddin told reporters. She also said DNA tests have confirmed that the human remains found in a jungle clearing in the Bukit Rajah hill outside Kuala Lumpur was that of Shaariibuu. Noorin refused to speculate on the manner the murder was committed or what connection the two policemen had with the woman.
ABOVE: Sirul Azhar Umar,35,(black shirt) and chief Inspector Azilah Hadri,30,(green shirt) being led away from the Shah Alam magistrate court.
Noorin said the two policemen were charged in a sessions court, and will face the first hearing on Dec. 14 in the High Court. A third female police officer, who also was detained for questioning along with the two male officers, was not charged. She was released on bail on Wednesday, said defencse attorney Shaun Tan. - AP
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Political analyst faces murder charge; 15 Nov 2006; Heidi Foo
KUALA LUMPUR: The political analyst at the centre of a murder probe had his remand order extended by two days yesterday. The 46-year-old suspect, who was initially being held for abduction, is now also being investigated for the murder of Mongolian national Altantuya Shaariibuu. Counsel Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah confirmed that his client is also facing a murder charge after the case against him was re-classified. “Initially, they held him for abduction. But after the bone fragments were found, he is now being investigated for murder.” Police yesterday applied for another week’s extension but Shafee challenged it, claiming that his client had been co-operating with investigators.
Magistrate Ahmad Fairuz Mohd Puzi extended the remand by two days after police claimed they needed more time with the suspect as he had also been in and out of hospital. The analyst is being treated for asthma, pneumonia and infection of the lower respiratory tract.
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Shafee: Lack of information led to inaccurate reports; NST ;15 Nov 2006
KUALA LUMPUR: Lawyer Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah believes that the "cloak of secrecy" surrounding murder investigations has led to inaccurate media reports. "Nobody has been feeding the media the right information. So, initially, reports that came out were mere speculation and guess work," the criminal lawyer said. "This could land the media in trouble." However, he said the reports were more sensible now. Shafee said he would carry on speaking to the Press as long as the rules of etiquette were not breached. He was criticised by fellow lawyer Karpal Singh for questioning a decision by a magistrate who was presiding over a remand application in the Altantuya murder investigation.
Karpal called for disciplinary action against Shafee for openly discussing what transpired in chambers in the remand proceedings. Shafee had told reporters what happened during the remand proceedings. Karpal had alleged that Shafee had acted liked a prosecutor when he issued a public ultimatum to either charge or release his client. Shafee said: "If some people are angry because we talk to the Press, too bad. It is my duty to inform the Press, as long as I do not touch on the facts of the case." Shafee also explained that the reason he was speaking to the Press was to let them know what was happening, without compromising anything confidential to the case. On the decision by an English daily to publish the particulars and photograph of his client, Shafee said it was that newspaper’s call. "I understand that it is a convention that a suspect is not named. My client’s name and photograph have been published. It is too late to close the stable door."
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and from the STAR , reporting from Mongolia
1. Altantuya married TWICE, First at 18 years to Pop singer Maadai (popular Mongolian Singer) in 1996, Marriage ended in divorce for neglect after 2 years; Second: To S. Khunikhuu, son of famous designer; also divorced 2 years later with no children.
2. Altantuya had TWO Kids, elder 9 years by Maadai, (who wants to claim back custody of the child) and another by a Mongolian; both kids living with parents.
...and the details
Altantuya married twice, had two kids; Wednesday November 15, 06
ULAN BATOR: Murdered Mongolian model Altantuya Shaaribuu, whose bone fragments were believed to have been found in Shah Alam had been married twice and had two young children here. The untold story on her was revealed when The Star interviewed her friends in Mongolia. Investigations revealed that the dead model was married to Mongolian celebrities – a popular rap/hip-hop singer and the son of a famous designer – about a decade ago. A close family friend who declined to be named said Altantuya had a son from her first marriage to Maadai, a popular Mongolian singer from the Khar Sarnai (Black Rose) band which is famous for its American-style pop music. The boy is about nine years old now, she said. The family friend said Altantuya married Maadai in 1996 when she was 18. Maadai was then 22. “They met in a party and she fell for him immediately. By then he was already a popular Mongolian singer. Women were crazy about him,” she said. They were said to be a lovely couple and were regularly featured in newspapers and magazines as a model family. “But their relationship only lasted two years. It took a turn for the worse after she bore him a child.” She said Maadai was very popular and had to travel across Mongolia for concerts while Altantuya stayed home to look after the child.
“She complained that he neglected her and decided to have her own way. In one of their frequent quarrels, when Maadai returned home, he decided to end their marriage.” The relationship ended with a bitter divorce in June 1998. “The custody of their son was given to Altantuya. After the divorce, she moved back to her parents’ home with the child,” said the family friend. But soon after her divorce, Altantuya, who was a socialite by then, married S. Khunikhuu, the son of a famous designer. “Her second marriage did not last long. They divorced two years later without having any children,” she said. She said Altantuya had another young child, about three years old now, following a relationship with another man after her failed marriages. “I don’t know who he is but he is a Mongolian.” She said both her children are living with her parents in a three-bedroom apartment in a 12-storey block at 34th Street here, an upmarket residential area behind the popular shopping zone in the city.
“Altantuya led a very colourful life with the Mongolian singer. She had celebrity status because she was the wife of the pop idol,” recalled D. Orlomkhorol, the director of Otgontenger University, a private education centre specialising in business and
language studies. She said Altantuya enrolled in her university in November 1996 but left school in January 1997. “She was absent most of the time. She skipped classes and examinations. She never completed the course because she was pregnant.” Opoccoo Puntzag, Altantuya’s biology teacher in High School 84 at the Bayazurkh district, said her former student went to Paris in 2000 and enrolled in a modelling school there after her divorce. “She was there briefly and got a certificate for modelling.” Opoccoo said she met Altantuya about a year ago when she came to the school to pick her mother up. (Altantuya's mother taught Russian in the same school as Opoccoo . Altantuya had also studied in the same school.)
“She seemed to be happy with her life and she spoke briefly about what she was doing. I also asked if she was modelling but she said she had never done any of that after completing her course,” she said. S. Ouynaa, a close friend who went to school with her for an English course, said Altantuya was involved in the textile and clothing business and imported the items from China, after returning from Paris. “I used to hear her say she travelled regularly to Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong and Taiwan to do business there. She also boasted of having visited some of the best and top nightclubs there. “She never told me that she had been to Malaysia or knew someone from there before,” she said. Ouynaa added that Altantuya always wanted to be a successful model. Altantuya had a mole on the right side of her upper lip and it was removed about five years ago.
“She had the birth mark removed to make her look more attractive,” she said. She said Altantuya was also very fashion conscious and would always dress to kill even for a normal occasion.
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Altantuya’s ex-hubby wants custody of son; Wednesday November 15, 2006
By EDDIE CHUA in Mongolia ULAN BATOR: The news of Altantuya Shaaribuu's death took her ex-husband, top Mongolian rap and hip-hop singer Maadai by surprise. He now wants to seek the legal custody of their nine-year-old son if she is confirmed to be dead. The 32-year-old lead singer of Khar Sarnai (Black Rose) band said he learnt of Altantuya’s death through newspaper reports. “I don’t believe she could have been killed. She was a smart woman and she knew how to survive even in the toughest environment,” he told The Star. “But if this is true, I will seek the custody of my son from her parents.”
And this is the Hip-Hop Singer Maadai, who married Altantuya in 1996; for some hip -hop Mongolian music (some in English) go H E R E (Maadai) or H e r e (Khar Sarni)
Currently, Maadai's son, Atanshagai, is living with Altantuya’s parents here. Maadai, who has not remarried since his divorce eight years ago, however, refused to discuss his marriage and the bitter divorce they went through. “Yes, I was married to Altantuya 10 years ago and we have a child,” the vocalist said, adding that he had not spoken to Altantuya since their divorce. “I don’t want to have anything to do with her now as both of us had been living separate lives.” He said he had not seen his son in the last three years after he was stopped by his former wife from doing so. Maadai said he would meet and persuade his former in-laws to give him custody of his son, who is in third grade in a government school here, if Altantuya is confirmed dead. “I have the means to look after him. I love him and I want the best for him.” “I know it will be difficult for them to allow the boy to return to me but I hope to settle this amicably. I want the best for my son,” he said
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Remand For Political Analyst Extended For Another Two Days; November 14, 2006 19:56 PM KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 14 (Bernama) --
The Magistrate Court (above), Tuesday extended for another two days the remand order for a political analyst to assist investigations into the gruesome killing of Mongolian part-time model, Altantuya Shaariibuu, three weeks ago. Magistrate Ahmad Fairuz Mohd Puzi allowed the 46 year-old man to be detained until Thursday following the expiry of a previous order for a seven day remand Tuesday. The political analyst is being investigated under Section 365 and 302 of the Penal Code for wrongful confinement, abduction and murder. Altantuya was believed to have been shot and her body blown up near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. The political analyst, a director of a think-tank here, was brought to the court about 8.15am in a covered "black-maria" (BELOW) accompanied by a police patrol car.
A horde of photographers and cameramen, who had been waiting at the court premises, however, could not get shots or visuals of the face (BODY & LEG Only) of the political analyst who was in a blue shirt.
ABOVE: The suspect (in blue) being led bak to the "Black Maria" and then back to Hospital
Also at the court compound were his wife, their daughter and close relatives, including his parents and siblings. They were allowed to speak with the political analyst for a few minutes after the court proceedings which ended at 10.45am. The political analyst was then taken to Bukit Aman before being sent back to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital where he was being treated for lung infection and asthma. His lawyer, Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah, when met by reporters, said the magistrate court had allowed the police application to extend the remand order for his client despite him objecting to it. "I think further extension is unlikely (for my client after Thursday). The extension was given for several reasons given (by the police) but the main reason was that they (police) do not have time to complete their investigations. "There were various grounds for extension, but because my client was hospitalised, this disrupted investigations," he added. Muhammad Shafee said although his client was in treatment at the hospital, he cooperated with the police. On quarters unhappy with his action in issuing statements to the press, Muhammad Shafee said he did so because the media members were not given the right information. "It is my responsibility to tell the real situation. If I do not give them the information and they reported wrongly, who should be blamed. "You cannot blame the reporters because they are not given the right information. So, I provide them with the information without the details," he added. On reports by the media, Muhammad Shafee said: "Initially, I think the press went overboard because of all the speculation and misinformation. But now it (reporting) is better ...more sensible."
Asked if his client would be released or charged after the remand expired on Thursday, he said the matter would be decided by the Attorney-General. The investigation into the murder of Altantuya, 28, from Ulan Bator, is receiving wide media coverage after it was said that she might have been shot dead and her body blown to bits with explosives. She apparently came to Malaysia on Oct 6 with a younger sister and a cousin to look for a Malaysian man whom she claimed to be her husband and the father of her 16-month-old son. When Altantuya went missing on Oct 19, her sister and cousin lodged a police report and contacted the Mongolian embassy in Bangkok for assistance. Subsequently, police detained the three police personnel and were led to the area in Puncak Alam where bone fragments believed to be that of Altantuya were found.
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Mongolian Ambassador To Present Letter Of Credence To King;November 14, 2006 20:48 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 14 (Bernama) -- Wisma Putra, Tuesday clarified that the ambassador-designate of Mongolia to Malaysia, Yaichil Batsuuri, is here to present his credentials to Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail. The event, a diplomatic practice for ambassadors accredited to the country, had been planned months ago, it said. "Therefore, Batsuuri's audience with the Yang di-Pertuan Agong would be purely a diplomatic practice and has no connection to the Altantuya case which is still under police investigation," it said in a statement Tuesday. The media had reported that the Mongolian ambassador based in Bangkok would present a letter to the Yang di-Pertuan Agong pertaining to the murder of a Mongolian national in Shah Alam last month. Mongolian honorary consul in Malaysia Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi told the media yesterday that the ambassador would be handing over a letter pertaining to the murder of 28-year-old graduate teacher and part-time model Altantuya Shaariibuu near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam, to the King on Thursday at 10.30am. Batsuuri arrived here, Monday night.
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UPDATE 6: 14th Nov 2006; 18:58pm
CONFUSION on MODEL NAMES in MONGOLIA & AROUND the WORLD
Altantuya Shaaribuu & Altantuya Honggul (the well know model)
This famous model Altantuya Honggul is well and alive in ParisScreenshot from Modelsblog.info. Go h e r e & see and inform the site owner (no comment without password)
Confusion over which Altantuya was murdered; Tuesday November 14, 2006
The STAR sent these two staff all the way from Malaysia to Mongolia (to file this story from the capital city of Mongolia, Ulan Bator) and take a break for a holiday
ULAN BATOR: Many Mongolians were confused as to the real identity of the victim in the brutal murder of one of their models in Malaysia.
When they heard that the victim was a model named Altantuya, they were quick to assume that she was Altantuya Honggul, better known as Toya, now based in Paris. Davaadorj Bolormaa, 36, who runs a top fashion agency and modelling school here, said people assumed it was Toya because she was well-known, had the same first name as Altantuya Shaaribuu and is about the same age.
“To make matters worse, newspapers and television networks in China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore had also published her pictures (Toyo while the Internet forums discussed her death,” said Bolormaa, a former top model in Asia. She said the confusion sparked curiosity among the public, including the fashion and modelling fraternities here. She said some people even called her for confirmation, as she was Toya's teacher and former agent. “I cried when I heard the news that she had died, She is one of my best students who made it big in Europe.” However, she soon realised that it was not Toya. Some of her models had even called her to say that Toya was alive and well. “They told me Toya is currently doing a photo shoot for a magazine in Paris,” she said. Bolormaa said she would issue a statement to the local media here to clarify the rumours. “I don’t want people to think negative things about Toya. I just want to stop the bad gossip and rumours on the Internet and newspapers about her.” Asked about Altantuya Shaaribuu, Bolormaa said she had not heard of her even though it had been widely reported that Altantuya Shaaribuu was a part-time model. “She is too short to be a model here in Mongolia. Our minimum requirement in terms of height is 175cm. I read that the dead girl was only 155cm.” Meanwhile, pictures of a woman bearing a striking resemblance to Altantuya Shaaribuu, which were published in The Star on Saturday, are those of South Korean actress and pop singer Lee Hae Ryeon. Readers have written and pointed out the South Korean actress-singer was also known to her fans as U-Nee. An e-mail with the subject title Altantuya@Mongolia had been circulating stating that the pictures were that of the Mongolian woman. Altantuya's father had also said that the pictures were not those of his daughter.
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Mongolian ambassador Luvsandor Davaagiv has arrived from Bangkok and scheduled to hand over a letter to Yang di-Pertuan Agong on the murder of a Mongolian national Altantuya. Also more update details( BERNAMA) from IGP on statements from Reporters from media.
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Mongolian Ambassador Arrives To Give Letter To King; November 14, 2006 01:19 AM
SEPANG, Nov 14 (Bernama) -- The Mongolian ambassador in Bangkok, who is scheduled to hand over a letter to
The Malaysian King, whose term is expiring on Dec 12 2006
Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail on the murder of a Mongolian national in Shah Alam last month, arrived at the KL International Airport here, Monday night.
Mongolian honorary consul in Malaysia, Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi, when contacted by Bernama, said Luvsandor Davaagiv arrived at around 7pm but was whisked away by police escort via an undisclosed exit. However, members of the media who had been waiting for Davaagiv outside the VIP arrival lounge since 6pm were not aware of his exit until 9 pm, almost two hours after he left. Syed Abdul Rahman said Davaagiv would be handing over a letter pertaining to the murder of 28-year-old graduate teacher and part-time model Altantuya Shaariibuu @ Aminah near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam to the King on Thursday at 10.30 am. He also said that the ambassador would meet Altantuya's father, Shaariibuu Setev, after handing over the letter to the King. Tuesday, Davaagiv is scheduled to meet up with Foreign Ministry officials to discuss developments of the case. Altantuya's murder has prompted the Mongolian government to seek an explanation from the Foreign Ministry over the killing of its national in the country. Police have so far remanded six people in connection with the probe of the murder, including an analyst and three police personnel. The 46-year-old analyst has been remanded to assist in the probe under Sections 302 and 365 of the Penal Code for murder and abduction, respectively. Altantuya came to Malaysia on Oct 6 with a younger sister and cousin to look for a Malaysian man whom she claimed to have had a serious relationship with. When she disappeared mysteriously on Oct 19, her sister and cousin lodged a police report and contacted the Mongolian embassy in Bangkok for assistance. Following the report, police detained three police personnel and were led to the area in Puncak Alam where bone fragments believed to be that of Altantuya's were found.
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UPDATE 5: 14th Nov 2006; 13:31pm
And the latest Headlines from Malaysiakini
The police have called up several journalists in connection with their 'inaccurate' reports on the gruesome murder which made headlines.
From Malay & Chinese dailies The IGP said this is not a scare tactic
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Karpal Singh (the member of parliament) wants to move a motion for the House to debate lawyer Muhammad Shafee Abdullah's alleged breach of professional etiquette.
A motion to will be moved ‘very soon’ for the Dewan Rakyat to debate on the public criticism made by lawyer Muhammad Shafee Abdullah, who is representing the political analyst detained in connection with the murder of a freelance Mongolian model for criticism against remand extension. The Bar Council told to look into it.
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Karpal calls for action against Shafee ; 4 Nov 2006
KUALA LUMPUR: Lawyer Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah has come under fire for questioning a magistrate’s decision in the Altantuya Shaariibuu murder case. Veteran lawyer Karpal Singh called for disciplinary action against Shafee. Karpal said whatever transpired in chambers should not be discussed openly by any lawyer. "Shafee not only discussed it but also questioned the magistrate’s decision." Shafee on Sunday slammed the police for seeking an extension on the remand order against his client, a political analyst detained over Altantuya’s murder. Police had initially asked for a nine-day extension to further question the analyst but magistrate Manira Mohd Nor granted a two-day extension in addition to the five-day initial remand order, which expired on Sunday. Karpal said it was gross misconduct on the part of Shafee to question the decision. "The Bar Council should take action against him," he said at the Parliament lobby yesterday. The Bukit Gelugor MP also moved a motion to debate Shafee’s public statement on the decision reached in chambers, adding that in issuing the ultimatum to either charge or release his client, Shafee had acted like a prosecutor. Karpal said the police should not be intimidated by the statements issued by Shafee while investigations were in progress. "Shafee has no legal right to expose publicly what is said in chambers by a judicial officer. This is against the legal profession and etiquette rules by which counsel are bound and constitutes a disciplinary offence. "It could well amount to intimidation of a legal officer in the discharge of his legal duties."
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IGP Warns “No Trial by Media”
The Inspector General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said the media should let the police investigate the case thoroughly irrespective whether or not itis a high profile case. In the past week the media has been speculating on the case. He feared that such speculative reporting might jeopardize police investigation in the future.
“Do not put people on trial through media. We have got a court of law, so I don’t like to put people on trial through the media
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And from NST,
Altantuya murder case: IGP: Do not speculate on events leading to murder
14 Nov 2006 ;Alang Bendahara
KUALA LUMPUR: Stop this trial by the media. Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan yesterday cautioned the media to stop speculating on events leading to the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu. While acknowledging that journalists have their jobs to do, Musa urged them not to complicate matters as it could affect investigations. "Several of the reports are not consistent with our findings. ”When this happens, we will have to find out the source of these reports," he said. He made this observation on the same day that police recorded statements from five reporters. "When reporters have more details in their reports, we will want to know the source of the facts." It is learnt that the reporters were questioned on the alleged extortion of RM500,000 by the victim. They were also questioned on reports linking the victim’s 16-month-old son to a political analyst who had been detained to help in the probe. "This order to call in the reporters is mine, it is not from the Attorney-General’s Chambers," he said, after receiving a RM100,000 cheque from Henikwon Corp Sdn Bhd for the police officers’ children’s education fund at Bukit Aman here yesterday. Musa said he was concerned over inconsistent facts which could be used in court by defence lawyers. "This could jeopardise our case." He also pointed out that reporters could be ordered to reveal their sources in court. Musa said the media had been unfair in their coverage of the case so far. "Several suspects are being tried by the media. We have courts. Let the courts decide on the case." Altantuya, 28, who was also a part-time model, was believed to have been shot and her body blown up near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam, last month. Earlier reports suggested that she came to Malaysia to look for a Malaysian man who is said to have had an affair with her. Six people — a political analyst, three police officers and two private investigators — were picked up to help in the probe into the murder. It is learnt that the private investigators have been released on bail while the other four are under remand. Altantuya’s father, Shaariibuu Setev, is also in Malaysia to help with the investigation.
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IGP: Stop Trial Through Media; November 13, 2006 22:47 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 13 (Bernama) -- The recording of statements from journalists, especially those who had reported on the missing Mongolian model, was not a new practice, said Inspector-General of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan. He said the police just wanted to know from where the journalists had obtained some of their facts, which the police investigators did not have.
"It is not a scare tactic. We want to know from where they got certain information that are not facts to us. "We don't want facts that are inconsistent to be released in court. This is also being done to avoid speculation, in order to avoid complications when the case later goes to court," he said in a statement sent to Bernama, Monday night. He was commenting on several reporters who were called up to give statements at police stations regarding their reporting on the case of a 28-year-old Mongolian graduate teacher and part-time model Altantuya Shaariibuu who is believed to have been murdered. Police had taken down statements from journalists of various print media yesterday and today as there were various versions as to what had happened that could jeopardise their investigations. In the statement, Musa said reporters who were asked to give their statements were asked to do so based on what they had written in their publications. He also denied a news report that the reporters had been arrested.
"When the media write about what happened in chronological form and have more details than us, than we definitely want to find out where they got that extra fact or details. "We will not compel them to reveal their sources unless that case was brought to court and it will be a practice from now on," he said. However, he said those who refused to come forward when asked to give statements, would be compelled to do so under Section 111 of the Criminal Procedure Code.
He said sometimes when reporters wrote about crime, they had a tendency to speculate. Musa also denied the secrecy surrounding the case because a VIP was involved. Altantuya is believed to have been shot dead and her body blown up near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam, after she came to Malaysia to look for a Malaysian man who is said to have had an affair with her.
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Model Girl Pictures of look-a-like Altantuya -a Hoax
Those pictures first published by STAR News paper and also displayed by TV 3 have been exposed by STOMPer Hyein Lee (check here and get the Link to the Korean Site) She is a young 24-year-old Korean Pop Star (Lee Hae Ryeon; May 3rd, 1981; Physique : 167cm, 48kg; Education : Department of Drama and Film, Kyunghee University, Korea) U;nee who is very much alive and well. U;nee is currently an actress (TV dramas and movies) and a singer (who has two albums) in Korea. It was a publicity stunt from her promoter perhaps. In fact Mr Shaariibuu’s niece, Amy, who was also present at the press conference, states, “We do not know who the woman in these pictures is.”
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UPDATE 4: 13th Nov 2006; 20:56pm
The three police personnel, a constable, a lance corporal and a Chief Inspector arrived at the Kuala Lumpur Magistrate Court at about 12.50 pm in a pajero escorted by two police cars. Their arrivals were will awaited by the press as early as 8 am. They were represented by lawyer, Shaun Tan Kee Shaan. The investigation of the brutally murdered Mongolian woman also gets the coverage of foreign media agencies. The three police personnel under remand were seen leaving the court in separate vehicles at about 1.45 in the afternoon.
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Remand Extended For Three Police Personnel In Mongolian Murder Probe
ABOVE: The Kuala Lumpur Majistrate Court where the remands were extend for the 3 police suspects
November 13, 2006 18:46 PM KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 13 (Bernama) -- The Magistrate's Court, Monday extended to Wednesday the remand of three police personnel assisting in the investigation into the murder of a Mongolian woman in Shah Alam three weeks ago. Magistrate Fatimah Rubiah Ali issued the order for the further remand of a chief inspector from the Special Action Unit, a woman lance corporal from the Petaling Jaya police and a constable with the Bukit Aman escort branch. The three police personnel are assisting in the probe into the murder of Mongolian freelance model Altantuya Shaariibuu alias Aminah, 28, who is believed to have been shot and the body blown up with explosives near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. The constable has been in remand for a week while the chief inspector and the lance corporal have been held over the last 13 days.
ABOVE & BELOW: The Police suspects being led into the majistrate court at about 12.15 pm
The chief inspector and the constable were brought to the court at 12.50 pm in a four-wheel-drive vehicle with heavily tinted windscreens and windows while the woman lance corporal was brought in a police patrol car 15 minutes later. The policewoman was seen bowing, apparently to shield her face from the horde of photographers and cameramen waiting in the compound at the rear of the courthouse since early morning. At about 1.45 pm, the three people were taken away from the court in the same vehicles. All of them are assisting in the probe under Section 302 of the Penal Code for murder. A 46-year-old political analyst also assisting in the investigation, under Section 302 of the Penal Code as well as Section 365 for abduction and confinement, had his remand extended Sunday until Tuesday.
ABOVE: One of the Police suspect leaving & escorted into the car and BELOW: The hordes of press photographers (waiting since 8 am) trying to get a good shot, which was very difficult.
According to a police source, two private investigators whose remand expired today were taken to the Dang Wangi district police headquarters for further action. They had been held for five days to assist in the investigation under Section 506 of the Penal Code for criminal intimidation. The two men, aged 35 and 46, were not brought to court today for further remand or release. The investigation into the murder of Altantuya is receiving wide media coverage after it was said that she might have been shot dead and her body blown to bits with explosives. Altantuya apparently came to Malaysia on Oct 6 with a younger sister and a cousin to look for a Malaysian man whom she claimed to be her husband and the father of her 16-month-old son. When Altantuya went missing on Oct 19, her sister and cousin lodged a police report and contacted the Mongolian embassy in Bangkok for assistance. Subsequently, police detained the three police personnel and were led to the area in Puncak Alam where bone fragments believed to be that of Altantuya were found.
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UPDATE 3: 13th Nov 2006; 8:45hrs
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'Charge him or release him'- Suspect LAWYER; 13 Nov 2006 Alang Bendahara from NST
KUALA LUMPUR: The Altantuya Shaariibuu murder case has yet to go to court, but already the first salvo has been fired. The lawyer for the political analyst detained in connection with the murder of the Mongolian model yesterday slammed the police for seeking an extension on the remand order against his client. Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah said the police should either charge his client or release him. Police, working to expedite investigation into the case that has gripped public attention and generated various theories and rumours, had asked for a nine-day extension to question the prominent analyst.
However, magistrate Manira Mohd Nor only granted a two-day extension. The first five-day remand order expired yesterday.
The 46-year-old analyst’s counsel said: "There is no reason to detain him any longer as they have taken his statement. "They have searched and investigated his office and house and taken his DNA sample. "So there is nothing else they need to take from him. All other investigations are now external to him." Shafee was speaking at the Cheras police headquarters yesterday afternoon after Manira had granted the extension.
Shafee said his client faced three legal possibilities when the remand period ended. "They can release him conditionally or unconditionally; they can charge him or they can release him on a bond pending further investigation.”But I hope he will be released conditionally or unconditionally on Tuesday." An unhappy Shafee also claimed police were denying him full access to his client. "Until today, I have only managed to have several short conversations with him, but not in a way a client and a solicitor ought to be allowed to talk, in an atmosphere of confidentiality. "I met my client here today (yesterday) but I would not describe that brief moment as a ‘talk’. It was more like hugging than anything else."
Shafee said: "My client is to be admitted again to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital today (yesterday). He is coughing. He is going back to the hospital for treatment for lower respiratory tract infection. "I do not know when he will be out of the hospital."
ABOVE; Relatives (left is the wife, see detailed photo below) arriving at the court house as early as 10 am anticipating his release and BELOW: His parents & daughter (left). But when there was NO release, some of them were seen sobbing. See below for another picture
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ABOVE:The disappointed suspect's wife Puan Mazlinda Makhzan leaving the court house Sunday after the extension of remand . The grief, sadness & shame of it all are all over her burdened face. .
And from the cryptic comment, from … a girl from mongolia
“Oh, oh, which big sorrow and pain for her and for her family. One human being, one beautiful mongolian girl is gone. For what are those things there, which are called like fame, glory, money, family, beauty, career, sex; if you love nobody and nobody loves you. We are here to love each other and then to live"
Can decipher & understand her hidden, mystifying remarks tending to conceal or camouflage a message?
and BELOW: The suspect in hand cuff lead to the "lock-up" .
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ABOVE: The suspect in his younger days in Malaysia's Talk Show "Global" on TV2
Anticipating his release, the analyst’s parents, wife and their 19-year-old daughter were present at the Cheras police headquarters from 10am. Shafee said the analyst’s family was also saddened by the extension of his remand.
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Mongolian Ambassador To Give Letter To King Wednesday Over Murder; November 12, 2006 21:13 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 12 (Bernama) -- The Mongolian ambassador in Bangkok is scheduled to hand over a letter to the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Syed Putra Jamalullail, on Wednesday pertaining to the murder of a Mongolian national in Shah Alam last month. The ambassador, L. Davaagiv, is due to arrive Monday, accompanied by several senior officials of the embassy, the Mongolian honorary consul in Malaysia, Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi, told Bernama. The letter pertains to the murder of 28-year-old graduate teacher and part-time model Altantuya Shaariibuu alias Aminah near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. "They are expected to arrive at the Kuala Lumpur International Aiport (KLIA) around 7 pm Monday. The ambassador will meet His Majesty on Wednesday but the time has yet to be determined. All the necessary arrangements have been carried out for the Wednesday meeting," Syed Abdul Rahman said. He also said that the ambassador would meet Altantuya's father, Shaariibuu Setev, after handing over the letter to the king. Altantuya's murder has prompted the Mongolian government to seek an explanation from the Foreign Ministry (Wisma Putra) over the killing of its national in the country.
Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said earlier Sunday that Wisma Putra had yet to receive any formal request in writing from Mongolia for an explanation. Last Thursday, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he was concerned about the case and called on the police to conduct a thorough investigation. He also said that Wisma Putra would have to study such a request because the murder of Altantuya was under police investigation.
ABOVE: Suspect (Abdul Razak, more pics below) being ushered into the court in the Cheras Police Station (BELOW) on Sunday where his remand was extended 2 more days
Meanwhile, at the Cheras district police station Sunday, the remand order on a political analyst helping with the investigation into the murder has been extended by two days to Tuesday. The analyst has been remanded to assist in the probe under sections 302 and 365 of the Penal Code for murder and abduction, respectively. So far, the police have remanded six people in connection with the probe into the murder. Besides the analyst, the others are three police officers and two private investigators. = = = = = = = == = = = = =END Update 3
UPDATE 2: 12th Nov 2006; 16:45hrs
This Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Fu Ah Kiow wants us to "hear no evil, see no evil and talk no evil" when we are confused by th media. What nonense; the lawyer says we can guess "who dun it!" but not touch on the facts (subjudice) and the facts are emerging and changing all the time depending which media you are reading.
The latest, the suspect RAZAK Baginda has his REMAND extended TWO More days until Tuesday! MORE Pics loaded below
ABOVE Three photos show suspect Abdul Razak being escorted out from the Majistrate Court (after his remand order was extended for another two days) into a car. Notice his right hand wrist is under bandaged; could be due to "drip wound" during his sojurn in Hospital. He returned back to KL Hospital for further treatment
BELOW: It looks like ALL his family members came in full force to give "moral support" The wife was reported to be a Majistrate herself and most were seen crying when the remand was extended
Remand Order On Political Analyst Extended By Two Days; November 12, 2006 18:31 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 12 (Bernama) -- The remand order on a political analyst in connection with the investigation into the murder of a Mongolian woman has been extended by two more days to Tuesday. The analyst was originally remanded for five days to help in the probe into the murder of 28-year-old Mongolian graduate teacher and part-time model Altantuya Shaariibuu alias Aminah. Magistrate Manira Mohd Nor allowed the extension of remand at the Cheras district police station here Sunday. The analyst is being remanded under sections 302 and 365 of the Penal Code for murder and abduction, respectively. The analyst, clad in a blue shirt and grey pants, was brought to the police station at 11.25 am by police personnel from the Federal Criminal Investigations Department in a van under tight security. Present at the police station were the analyst's wife, his 19-year-old daughter, and his parents. They were allowed to be with the analyst for a few minutes after the remand order was issued. Other close relatives were also seen at the police station, most of them having anticipated that the analyst would be released Sunday.
The analyst's lawyer, Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah, said the police had initially asked for a nine-day remand. "The request was ridiculous and I objected to it. Everything in the investigation is complete, such as his statement and (taking of the) DNA sample. They have even investigated my client's house and office. So, there is no reason to keep him longer in remand. Maybe they want to fine-tune their investigations," he told reporters at the police station. Later, the analyst was brought back to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital (KLH), at 1.15 pm, to be readmitted to the hospital's Coronary Care Unit to undergo medical supervision for fluid in the lungs (lung oedema) and asthma. "He will be there (in KLH) until he fully recovers, I don't know when," he said. Muhammad Shafee said that on Tuesday, when the remand expires, the analyst might face one of three possibilities -- be released conditionally or unconditionally; face charge(s), or be released on bond pending investigation. "They (police) may attempt to ask for further remand but I don't think that will happen because the investigation is already complete," he said.
Muhammad Shafee said he had "a small conversation" with the analyst at the police station Sunday but not in a manner between a client and counsel. "I never had a confidential talk with him. There were policemen around us. But generally he is okay," he said. Muhammad Shafee, praising the police for fair investigation, believes that his client would be released conditionally on Tuesday. "But I just did not have the right moment to have a confidential talk with him, one on one. It was only a very short meeting, But overall, they (police) are quiet professional," he said. "But I am still confident he (the client) is innocent," he said. So far, the police have remanded six people in all in connection with the probe into murder. Besides the analyst, the others are three police officers and two private investigators. The Mongolian Altantuya had arrived in Malaysia on Oct 6 with a sister and a cousin looking for a man with whom she is said to have had a love affair. They had apparently met in Mongolia two years ago. Altantuya is said to have sought financial aid from the man on Oct 19 to treat her baby boy. That was the last time she was seen alive. When she did not show up after the visit, the sister and cousin lodged a police report and sought help from the Mongolian embassy in Bangkok. Following the report, police detained three people and later found bone fragments believed to be of a woman near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. Altantuya is believed to have been shot and her body blown up with explosives at that place.
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No Formal Request Yet For Info From Mongolia Over Murder Of Its National ; November 12, 2006 16:08 PM
KOTA TINGGI, Nov 12 (Bernama) -- The Malaysian foreign ministry has not yet received any formal request in writing from Mongolia for an explanation and latest information on the murder of one of its nationals in Malaysia last month, said. Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar.
He said Wisma Putra would have to study such a request because the murder of Mongolian woman Altantuya Shaariibuu alias Aminah Abdullah, 28, was under police investigation. "The police are conducting their investigation, and any request would have to be made in accordance with the law," he told reporters at his Hari Raya Aidilfitri open house in his parliamentary constituency of Kota Tinggi. Altantuya, who is alleged to have had an affair with a Malaysian man, is believed to have been killed and her body blown up with explosives near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam, last month after she had come to Malaysia looking for the man allegedly to seek money for the treatment of her 16-month-old son. Police have so far remanded six people, one of them a local political analyst and three of them police personnel, to help in the investigation into the case. Syed Hamid also said that Wisma Putra could arrange for protection on request for Mongolian nationals who would have to appear as witnesses in the case. He criticised the Mongolian honorary consul in Malaysia, Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman Alhabshi, for having divulged much information in relation to the murder to the media, which he felt could jeopardise the police investigation into the case. "Instead, he should have lodged a police report. See what has happened. There are many stories about what might have occurred, and there could have been information relevant for the police probe," he said.
In KUANTAN, Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Fu Ah Kiow advised the media to cease any form of speculation in the case to avoid confusing the people. "I ask the media to stop making speculation in their reports on the case as many versions have appeared in the newspapers and on television, and this can confuse the people," he said after opening a seminar on Taoism organised by the Kuantan MCA. Fu, who is the MP for Kuantan, said contrary reports have appeared in the media pertaining to the case, and said the media should allow the authorities to complete the probe into the case and not jump the gun with its own conclusions. "Do not confuse the people. Let the police complete their investigation and announce the outcome," he said. He also said that the government would not compromise with members of the security forces who get involved in crime and added that they would have to face the penalty like everyone else. Fu said the people would lose confidence in the security forces when they learn that those entrusted with their security commit crime as well.
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TRANSCRIPTS of interview with family members of missing Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu ; Sunday November 12, 2006
Below is a transcript of the interview between reporters and family members of missing Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu. Altantuya’s cousin, identified only as Amy, and honorary Mongolian Consul General in Malaysia Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman AlHabshi answered most questions, as Altantuya’s father Dr Shaariibuu Setev does not speak English.
Q: Has the father identified any of Altantuya’s belongings?
Syed: Not yet.
Q: What is the evidence Dr Shaariibuu brought from Mongolia?
Syed: I have already given to the police and I think you better ask the police. I don’t know because everything is covered up in a parcel.
Q: Did Dr Shaariibuu bring along the marriage certificate (allegedly of Altantuya and Datuk Abdul Razak Baginda)?
Syed: No.
Q: What did he bring?
Syed: His wife's blood sample.
Q: Is there a 16-month-old boy (the son of Altantuya)?
Amy: I don’t want to discuss it today. We are all waiting for the result of the DNA test.
Q: Can you tell us about Altantuya?
Syed: Altantuya is a university graduate, teacher and also a translator. She owns a travel agency. She speaks among other languages English, Russian and Chinese (Mandarin). She has her own house and car. She always travels overseas for business .
Q: Did she ask for money from Abdul Razak?
Amy: I don’t think so.
Q: How many siblings does she have?
Amy: She has a younger sister (27-year-old Altantzul).
Q: Is the boy (son) sick?
Amy: Yes, he is.
Q: What is his name?
Amy: Altanchagai.
Q: Is he having medical treatment?
Amy: Yes.
Q: Where?
Syed: In Mongolia.
Q: Is Altantuya married to Abdul Razak?
Amy: I don’t want to talk about it.
Q: Have they been going out for a long time?
Amy: I will only say it after we get the DNA result. Now, I don’t want to say anything but I will come back to you later when we get the result. Until then, I don’t want to discuss this, I’m sorry about that.
(Syed interrupts)
Syed: They are still praying, they hope Altantuya is still alive. Until today, we cannot ascertain because we found only skeletal fragments. Let the police complete their investigation.
Amy: We hope that Altantuya is still alive.
Q: Was Altantuya divorced in Mongolia?
Syed: What happened in Mongolia previously, I do not know.
Q: Altantuya is a teacher. Is she a model?
Amy: She was a model, only for a short while.
Q: What kind of a person is Altantuya?
Amy: She is a very loving person, beautiful inside and out. She received formal education. She lived in Russia until she was 12 years old. She is really an attractive person. (Dr Shaariibuu speaks to Amy in Mongolian. Then, Amy whispers to Syed.)
Syed: What Dr Shaariibuu wants me to express to you all is he wants to thank the Malaysian police for inviting him to Malaysia to assist the investigation. As far as he is concerned until today, he can see that the investigation is very thorough, transparent and he is being well protected by the police. Whatever the police want, he has already given. He is quite pleased .
Q: Is Dr Shaariibuu going to meet the prime minister if Altantuya is murdered?
Syed: Our ambassador in Thailand will be arriving tomorrow to submit the letter of credentials to the Yang Di-Pertuan Agong. Let’s wait for him to arrive and from there we will see whether to meet the prime minister.
Q: When was the last time Dr Shaariibuu saw his daughter? Does he believe that she harassed and extorted money from Abdul Razak?
(Amy asks Dr Shaariibuu in Mongolian. Then, she whispers to Syed.)
Syed: Dr Shaariibuu doesn’t want anything. What he wants is a very transparent and straightforward investigation. That’s all he wants. Until today he is still praying that his daughter is still alive.
Q: Did Dr Shaariibuu approve his daughter’s relationship with Abdul Razak?
(Amy asks Dr Shaariibuu in Mongolian. Then, she whispers to Syed.)
Syed: He doesn’t prefer to answer any question now. If there is anything, he will answer in court.
Q: Did Altantuya leave any message before she flew to Malaysia?
Amy: No.
Q: When was the last time Dr Shaariibuu met his daughter?
(Amy asks Dr Shaariibuu in Mongolian.)
Amy: Oct 7, before she came over here.
Q: How many relatives of Altantuya are in Malaysia now?
Syed: Dr Shaariibuu, Amy, Altantuya’s uncle and a relative.
Q: Was the boy’s blood sent here for a DNA test?
Syed: No.
(Dr Shaariibuu speaks to Amy in Mongolian. Then, she whispers to Syed.)
Syed: Dr Shaariibuu never expected this sort of cruel murder will happen to a very nice, 28-year-old girl. Let’s wait for the investigation. Until now, he still hopes that it is not true, he just could not imagine?
Q: How is the wife doing now?
Syed: The wife is also being harassed there. Every day, it (the news) comes out front page in Mongolia. (Dr Shaariibuu speaks to Amy in Mongolian. Then, she whispers to Syed.)
Syed: He (Dr Shaariibuu) doesn’t want any more questions.
Amy: When we get the DNA result, we will come back to you and tell you more information, more about Datuk and more about Altantuya. (Dr Shaariibuu speaks to Amy in Mongolian. Then, she whispers to Syed.)
Syed: By now, the whole world knows about this incident. Dr Shaariibuu hopes there is no cover-up in the case. Until now, he is satisfied with the investigation. They will be here until the DNA result is released.
Q: Amy, have you met Abdul Razak?
Amy: I met him a few times.
Q: Was Altantuya pregnant when she came to Malaysia?
Syed: No.
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And fromS’PORE some background Info on the High profile suspect
ABDUL RAZAK BAGINDA: Lover of fast cars not known for fast living
By Leslie Lau; The Straits Times; Nov 12 06
WHILE Abdul Razak Baginda is well known among journalists and the think-tank set, he came to national attention only in 2002 over a controversial acquisition of submarines by the Defence Ministry. He served as a middleman in a company controlled by him and his associates in the deal, which was said to be worth up to RM288 million (S$123 million) to them. Questions had been raised over the deal because the commission earned was said to be worth about 10 per cent of the eventual cost of the submarines. Mr Abdul Razak had made many trips to Europe and other Asian countries as part of his business, brokering deals with the defence industry. Those who know him do not have a bad word to say about him. They describe him as urbane and soft- spoken. Journalists have found him to be easy to approach and always ready with a quote. While the 46-year-old likes fast cars - he drives a Porsche - he does not have a reputation for fast living and fast women. On the contrary, his Sunday routine is a roti canai brunch with his teenage daughter Rowena, whom he dotes on, according to a family friend. Most weekends, he can be seen with his wife Mazlinda, a lawyer, at the upscale Bangsar Shopping Centre, near his home in leafy and wealthy Damansara Heights. 'As far as I know, he is a hardworking man who dotes on his wife and daughter,' a friend of the family told The Sunday Times. 'He and his wife are best friends and the Porsche he owns is an old model.' Such is his reputation that Malaysians were shocked to see pictures of him in handcuffs splashed across the front pages of the nation's newspapers. 'It is unbelievable. Who would believe this?
No one can believe how he is being paraded round in handcuffs. And he has not been charged with anything,' a close associate who declined to be named said. Mr Abdul Razak graduated in the 1980s with a bachelor's degree in politics and government and a master's in war studies from the University of London. In 1988, he joined Malaysia's Armed Forces Defence College and, at the age of 28, became the institution's youngest ever lecturer. He later rose through the ranks to become the college's head of strategic studies. It is not clear how he met Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak. They moved in the same circles in the early 1990s. At the time, Datuk Seri Najib was the Defence Minister, a rising star in politics. In 1993, Mr Abdul Razak formed the Malaysian Strategic Research Centre (MSRC), the outfit with which he has been associated with since. While there is no direct link between the centre and Datuk Seri Najib, political circles here believe the think-tank has helped promote his ideas and agenda. Except for a brief stint as the host of a talk show on national television, Mr Abdul Razak appeared to be focused mainly on his work at the MSRC. He also wrote academic books on security and political issues. Appearing mainly at international conferences and at home with fellow intellectuals and analysts, he had very little public profile except for his comments published in newspapers. In fact, most ordinary Malaysians had not even heard of him. He is highly respected in his field, however. He is a member of the World Economic Forum's (Davos) Global Leaders for Tomorrow as well as a member of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies. When it emerged in 2002 that he had been involved in the submarine deal, an opposition politician who questioned the deal in Parliament asked the question: 'Who is this Abdul Razak Baginda?' That question was never answered. Now more questions about him are being raised
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ABOVE: Over 30 Newsmen and photographers were present at the Press Conference given by Altantuya's father Shariibuu Setev, on Saturday 11th Nov 2006 at the Mongolian Consular Office
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Mongolian Govt Wants Wisma Putra To Explain Altantuya Murder; November 11, 2006 20:25 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 11 (Bernama) -- The Mongolian government wants an explanation and an update from Malaysian Foreign Ministry on the gruesome murder of its national, Altantuya Shaariibuu @ Aminah, 28, who was found dead some two weeks ago at the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. A spokesman of the Mongolian Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand told Bernama that the embassy had received a directive from the Mongolian government to ask Wisma Putra for an update on the case. "The Mongolian government wants us to coordinate with the honorary consulate of Mongolia in Malaysia. The Mongolian government had expressed regret over the incident and would be writing an official letter asking for an explanation from Wisma Putra. "
We will inform Wisma Putra once we get the official letter from the Mongolian government. This is a matter of national interest," said the official who declined to be named. He said the Mongolian ambassador in Bangkok will arrive here tomorrow to hand over a letter from his government to the Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Tuanku Syed Putra Jamalullail, on the case. "We want this case to be addressed fairly and transparently. The way Altantuya was murdered was very cruel and totally unacceptable," he said. On Thursday, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he was concerned about the case and called on the police to investigate the case thoroughly. To date, the police have remanded six people, including a prominent political analyst, to facilitate investigations into the murder. Meanwhile, the political analyst was discharged from the Kuala Lumpur Hospital (HKL) at 3.30 pm this evening after receiving treatment last night.
He was taken to the HKL emergency unit at 8 pm yesterday and admitted for asthma and lung oedema (water in the lungs) after complaining of chest pain. "He was admitted at the Coronary Care Unit, and was under medical supervision. His condition has improved and he has been taken back to Bukit Aman," said the analyst's counsel, Datuk Muhammad Shafee Abdullah. The 46-year-old analyst, who heads a local think-tank, has been remanded for five days over the case, which ends tomorrow. Altantuya is believed to have been shot before her body was blown to pieces with explosives at a secondary forest in Puncak Alam, near Shah Alam two weeks ago. The model arrived in Malaysia on Oct 6 with a sister and cousin to trace a man, believed to be the analyst, with whom she was alleged to have had an affair. Altantuya is said to have gone to the analyst's home in Damansara Heights on Oct 19 to seek financial help for medical treatment for her ill 16-month-old son. It was the last time she was seen alive. When she did not show up after the visit, the sister and cousin lodged a police report and sought help from the Mongolian embassy in Bangkok. Following the report, police detained the suspects. All that remained of Altantuya were later found at the secondary forest in Shah Alam.
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DNA Results To Be Known Next Week, Says IGP; November 12, 2006 00:22 AM
"Time & Tide wait for no man, IGP"
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 12 (Bernama) -- Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said Saturday results of the DNA tests in the investigation of the gruesome murder of Altantuya Shaariibu @ Aminah, 28, would be known next week. "So far, the police cannot confirm whether the remains were of Altantuya until the DNA test results are known," he told reporters after an inspector trainee squad alumni ceremony here. The police took blood samples from six people to assist in the investigation of the killing of the Mongolian freelance model who was believed to have been shot dead, and her body blown up with explosives at Tasik Subang Dam, Puncak Alam, Shah Alam, some two weeks ago. Those who took the DNA tests were the victim's parents Shaariibuu Mash-Muj and Altansetseg, both in their 50's, and four detainees, namely a political analyst, 46, a police chief inspector, a female lance corporal and a constable. The test was to determine the identity of the victim, whose remains were collected by the forensic unit at the dam area several days ago. Asked how soon would the police resolve the case, Musa replied: "Give us some time."
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Unlikely she demanded for money: Victim's tight-lipped family from SUN
Terence Fernandez Updated: 06:10PM Sat, 11 Nov 2006 (Grave ERROR, speaking Russian!)
PETALING JAYA: It was meant to get the reporters off their backs for while. But at the end of the day, a news conference by the family of murdered Mongolian model Altantuya Shaariibuu left newsmen craving for more. Refusing to elaborate on his daughter's alleged relationship with a Malaysian political analyst, Shaariibuu Setev, said more answers would be forthcoming after results of a DNA test to confirm if fragments of skeletal remains found in Puncak Alam last week belonged to Altantuya.
Speaking in Russian(??????? ) through his niece (ABOVE) who gave her name as Amy, 28 and Mongolian honorary consul in Malaysia Datuk Syed Abdul Rahman (ABOVE) Alhabshi on Saturday, Setev said he still hoped his daughter - the older of two sisters - is still alive. "As far as the family is concerned, they are still praying that she is alive. "Until today we still can't ascertain this because all that has bee found are skeletal remains, so let the police complete their investigations... don't speculate," said Syed Abdul Rahman. The press conference attended by over 30 newsmen was held at Syed Abdul Rahman's travel agency, M.R. Travel & Tours Sdn Bhd in Sunway Damansara - which doubles as the office of the Mongolian Honorary Consulate. Setev, 56, is the director for the National University of Mongolia's centre of information and education. The professor of psychology arrived in Kuala Lumpur on Thursday with Amy and two other relatives.
They will be in the country until the DNA results are released – expected sometime next week. Syed Abdul Rahman added that Setev brought along blood samples of his wife,Altant Setseg, 53, a Russian language teacher to assist in the identification of the body parts. The family did however, shed some light on Altantuya's background - that she was a graduate teacher and translator who owned a travel agency and was well-versed in English, Russian and Mandarin. Amy said Altantuya also did modelling stints for a short while.
Shown pictures of a model published in The Star Saturday,
ABOVE: When shown the pictures Shariibuu Setev look intently at the pictures of the model and then broke down (BELOW)
Setev - who broke down several times - said that person was not his daughter.
These pictures first published by STAR News paper and also displayed by TV 3 have been exposed by STOMPer Hyein Lee (check here ). See Update 5 for some info.
These are the "look-a-like" model photos that the STAR forgot to Print! or modify. In fact Mr Shaariibuu’s niece, Amy, who was also present at the press conference, states, “We do not know who the woman in these pictures is.”
ABOVE: The consul told the newsmen: "You all have asked too many questions and confused the old man; as far as I am concern, ONLY the 2nd picture - the passport photo (see, BELOW, 2nd from TOP on the papers) is her" - Go to the previous post to see more of the model pictures which show a "striking resemblance to Altantunya
Whether she had demanded money from the political analyst, Syed Abdul Rahman said: "She owns her own house and her own car and always travels overseas for business." Amy who spotted dark sunglasses throughout the interview and bears a resemblance to Altantuya added: "It is not true that she asked him for money." She declined to delve further into the alleged relationship but did say that she had met the political analyst before in Mongolia. On Altanchatai, Altantuya's 16th-month-old son, Amy said he is unwell and undergoing medical treatment in Ulaanbataar. The family refused to delve into the boy's paternity.
Syed Abdul Rahman had told the Sun separately that the boy was immaterial to the case.
He also denied that the family had brought along a marriage certificate. "We never said anything about a marriage certificate,"he said, - although at a press conference on Monday Syed Abdul Rahman had said the family will be bringing the document to prove that the two were in fact married. On Friday, Syed Abdul Rahman told theSun that Setev had brought a letter from the Mongolian president asking for full co-operation and support from the Malaysian authorities. Setev thanked the Malaysian police for conducting a "thorough and transparent investigation". On whether Setev will be meeting the prime minister who has taken interest in the case, Syed Abdul Rahman said it will be considered after the Malaysian ambassador in Thailand arrives Sunday. "He (Setev) never expected such a cruel murder to happen to such a nice girl... if the body is proven to be that of Altantuya," Syed Abdul Rahman added. So far, six people, including the 47-year-old political analyst have been remanded over the murder. Altantuya arrived here on Oct 6 with her sister and a cousin to locate the political analyst. The two other women lodged a missing persons report at the Brickfields Police Station on Oct 21, when Altantuya failed to return to their hotel after supposedly leaving for the analyst's home on Oct 19. On Nov 4, police arrested three suspects who led them to the recovery of the human remains near the Subang Dam. Amy said she was not the cousin who accompanied Altantuya here. "We will tell you more on Altantuya, more on the analyst after the investigations. "I will come back to you later when we get the DNA sample results. We don't want to talk about it now," she said. Meanwhile, Bernama reports that the analyst has been admitted to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital (HKL) for asthma and lung oedema (water in the lungs) after complaining of chest pains. He was taken to the HKL emergency unit at 8pm Friday under heavy guard with 11 officers accompanying him.
It is understood that he has been warded at the Coronary Care Unit (CCU).
and since (latest Sunday, gone back to Bukit Aman, after enjoying the Hospital Aircond!) . Do you think this VIP suspect are given Aircond cells?
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Part X – Continuing the Altantuya Murder Trial – Trial Postponed to June 18 2007
MORE PICS & Video – Altantunya Shaariibuu Murder Trial Postponed –Ensure a Fair Trial –To whom? Altantunya Family Suing RM100M; Karpal's Failed Bid
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ABOVE & BELOW: The suspect (hand-cuffed behind) walking into the courtroom to face the charge
ABOVE & BELOW: Close Family members entering the courtroom
ABOVE: At the Shah Alam Court today and the "Black Maria" (BELOW) van bringing the two policemen
ABOVE: Sirul Azhar Umar,35,(black shirt) and chief Inspector Azilah Hadri,30,(green shirt) being led away from the Shah Alam magistrate court.
ABOVE & BELOW; More pictures the two Policemen charged with Murder, front & back views. Sirul Azhar Umar,35,(black shirt) and chief Inspector Azilah Hadri,30,(green shirt) being led away from the Shah Alam magistrate court. 
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ABOVE : The crowds at the court
1. Altantuya married TWICE, First at 18 years to Pop singer Maadai (popular Mongolian Singer) in 1996, Marriage ended in divorce for neglect after 2 years; Second: To S. Khunikhuu, son of famous designer; also divorced 2 years later with no children.
“She had the birth mark removed to make her look more attractive,” she said. She said Altantuya was also very fashion conscious and would always dress to kill even for a normal occasion.
And this is the Hip-Hop Singer Maadai, who married Altantuya in 1996; for some hip -hop Mongolian music (some in English) go H E R E (Maadai) or H e r e (Khar Sarni) 
Currently, Maadai's son, Atanshagai, is living with Altantuya’s parents here. Maadai, who has not remarried since his divorce eight years ago, however, refused to discuss his marriage and the bitter divorce they went through. “Yes, I was married to Altantuya 10 years ago and we have a child,” the vocalist said, adding that he had not spoken to Altantuya since their divorce. “I don’t want to have anything to do with her now as both of us had been living separate lives.” He said he had not seen his son in the last three years after he was stopped by his former wife from doing so. Maadai said he would meet and persuade his former in-laws to give him custody of his son, who is in third grade in a government school here, if Altantuya is confirmed dead. “I have the means to look after him. I love him and I want the best for him.” “I know it will be difficult for them to allow the boy to return to me but I hope to settle this amicably. I want the best for my son,” he said
The Magistrate Court (above), Tuesday extended for another two days the remand order for a political analyst to assist investigations into the gruesome killing of Mongolian part-time model, Altantuya Shaariibuu, three weeks ago. Magistrate Ahmad Fairuz Mohd Puzi allowed the 46 year-old man to be detained until Thursday following the expiry of a previous order for a seven day remand Tuesday. The political analyst is being investigated under Section 365 and 302 of the Penal Code for wrongful confinement, abduction and murder. Altantuya was believed to have been shot and her body blown up near the Subang Dam in Puncak Alam, Shah Alam. The political analyst, a director of a think-tank here, was brought to the court about 
A horde of photographers and cameramen, who had been waiting at the court premises, however, could not get shots or visuals of the face (BODY & LEG Only) of the political analyst who was in a blue shirt.
ABOVE: The suspect (in blue) being led bak to the "Black Maria" and then back to Hospital
The STAR sent these two staff all the way from Malaysia to Mongolia (to file this story from the capital city of Mongolia, Ulan Bator) and take a break for a holiday
“To make matters worse, newspapers and television networks in 
The Malaysian King, whose term is expiring on Dec 12 2006 
Karpal Singh (the member of parliament) wants to move a motion for the House to debate lawyer Muhammad Shafee Abdullah's alleged breach of professional etiquette.
ABOVE: The Kuala Lumpur Majistrate Court where the remands were extend for the 3 police suspects
ABOVE & BELOW: The Police suspects being led into the majistrate court at about 12.15 pm
ABOVE: One of the Police suspect leaving & escorted into the car and BELOW: The hordes of press photographers (waiting since 8 am) trying to get a good shot, which was very difficult.
The 46-year-old analyst’s counsel said: "There is no reason to detain him any longer as they have taken his statement. "They have searched and investigated his office and house and taken his DNA sample. "So there is nothing else they need to take from him. All other investigations are now external to him." Shafee was speaking at the Cheras police headquarters yesterday afternoon after Manira had granted the extension. 
ABOVE; Relatives (left is the wife, see detailed photo below) arriving at the court house as early as 10 am anticipating his release and BELOW: His parents & daughter (left). But when there was NO release, some of them were seen sobbing. See below for another picture
ABOVE:The disappointed suspect's wife Puan Mazlinda Makhzan leaving the court house Sunday after the extension of remand . The grief, sadness & shame of it all are all over her burdened face. .
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ABOVE: The suspect in his younger days in Malaysia's Talk Show "Global" on TV2
ABOVE: Suspect (Abdul Razak, more pics below) being ushered into the court in the Cheras Police Station (BELOW) on Sunday where his remand was extended 2 more days
ABOVE Three photos show suspect Abdul Razak being escorted out from the Majistrate Court (after his remand order was extended for another two days) into a car. Notice his right hand wrist is under bandaged; could be due to "drip wound" during his sojurn in Hospital. He returned back to KL Hospital for further treatment
ABOVE: Over 30 Newsmen and photographers were present at the Press Conference given by Altantuya's father Shariibuu Setev, on Saturday 11th Nov 2006 at the Mongolian Consular Office
ABOVE: When shown the pictures Shariibuu Setev look intently at the pictures of the model and then broke down (BELOW)
These are the "look-a-like" model photos that the STAR forgot to Print! or modify. In fact Mr Shaariibuu’s niece, Amy, who was also present at the press conference, states, “We do not know who the woman in these pictures is.”
ABOVE: The consul told the newsmen: "You all have asked too many questions and confused the old man; as far as I am concern, ONLY the 2nd picture - the passport photo (see, BELOW, 2nd from TOP on the papers) is her" - Go to the previous post to see more of the model pictures which show a "striking resemblance to Altantunya
5 Comments:
Before we could pin point Baginda's guilt.. i STRONGLY believe that under this current team of Datuk Musa Hassan,a.k.a under Badawi's TRANSPARENCY system (mind u, not necessarily included DPM), Justice will Prevail and that Nothing is above the Law regardless whether it involved a VVIP people. i do have a faith under Datuk Musa's authorisation unlike the previous Tan Sri Rahim Noor a.k.a, under the Tun Mahathir's dirty choronicles.
Lets not be "BLINDED" by all the facts, theoritically..on the surface of the facts, one may quickly want to assume that Baginda's responsible for this murder.
But by looking holistically and carefully the NATURE of the BRUTALLY murdered itself, one's mind may triggered that this case does not only involved a PERSONAL AFFAIRS between Baginda and Altantuya, but it smells that the victim may have some kind of POLITICAL THREAD on her.
ie, its not merely about their illicit affairs, sick child, cash, blaikmailing,bla,bla.. it involved more than that, a lot of HIDDEN shocking things that we are yet not aware of..a.k.a, more like a "MARILYN MONROE" case where she was murdered by the Russian's militant agent after they found out of her secret affairs with J.F.K and thought that she might share some of confidential secrets to the President.
In addition, after having this torrid affair which Baginda had spent so much money, what led to this sudden break up and downward spiral of the relationship that lead to such a violent death? Plenty of rich UMNO MP'S with mistress problem do not have to lead to violence.
Considering his PATRON is Najib who has an even worst torrid history,..Oh yess (we are not aware of cos it was off record).. what the hell was he thinking?
Bear in mind that this case involved A LOT of PARTIES,ie, Baginda's wife investigators, Baginda's investigators, Altantuya's investigators and perhaps DPM choronicles as well. dont be surprise that Baginda may not whatsoever know about this whole WELL-PLAN murder.
Why hand over a letter to the Yang Di-Pertuan Agong instead of the Prime Minister?
i know this GUY!, in 2003 i talked to his secretary about his organised projects, when the secretary said its none of my business, i said as a responsible public citizen of malaysia i want to know more about their interesting projects. she scolded me and said the same thing. the next day his boss (political analyst) called me up and said he knows some people in bukit aman and would get them to fix me up unless i apologised for what i have said to her secretary.
i refused but later forced to apologise for not risking a fight with the the his bukit aman friends. p.s lucky i did apoligise to the political analyst if not i would have been blown up to pieces. now i know who is this political analysit. MAYBE ME AND ANANTUYA may not be the only one to have been threatened like this!!
Men use to have fun outside but they would not bring home. They have two worlds. One, a decent one with his only wife and kids. A good religious life. Clean. Well liked. Talk sense. Two, an affair with another lady. So they keep their two worlds well separated. Their friends help to cheat his wife too. Actually, they are helping one another. Of course not all men are successful in this if they have wives who smell something fishy going on. Baginda is probably too screwed up by his own war strategies that he starts using it on people he regards as enemies. A psychiatrist should be called up and question on his psychological state. The two PDRM officers do not have strong motives to murder this Mongolian lady. They do not have that kind of money to fly to Mongolia or elsewhere far to have fun. Their stupid mistake is thinking they would not be found out. So the moral of this story is never take things at face value.
To my mind everybody have to glance at it.
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