Lingam’s Brothers Feud – ACA Got Statements from V K Lingam & V. T. Thirunama Karasu on V K Closed Relationship - Judges & Personal Safety

UPDATE: Nov 22; 2.30am

November 21, 2007 22:23 PM

Lingam Hands Over Documents To ACA

PUTRAJAYA, Nov 21 (Bernama) -- Lawyer Datuk V.K. Lingam, implicated in a video clip showing him allegedly discussing judicial appointments with a senior judge, said today he had handed over several documents pertaining to his business and assets as well as bank accounts to the Anti- Corruption Agency (ACA) office here. "I have handed over several legal documents as well as those pertaining to my business, bank accounts and assets to the ACA," he told reporters at 7pm after emerging from the ACA office. He was seen entering the office at 2.45pm after he had arrived there accompanied by two men. He had gone into the office alone. Lingam had come to the ACA office in the morning but was seen leaving at about 11am, apparently to get the documents, and returned at 2.45pm to hand them over.

Lingam also told reporters that the ACA had recorded statements from his wife, maids and employees. He said the ACA officers had been professional in discharging their duties. He said he had also handed over to the ACA letters from doctors at the Kuala Lumpur Hospital and Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) Hospital pertaining to the health of his younger brother, V.T. Thirunama Karasu. Lingam said: "My brother worked for me at one time. Then our relationship soured. He wants to sue me. Let him," he said. Thirunama Karasu had his statement recorded by ACA officers yesterday.

ACA deputy director-general Datuk Abu Kassim Mohamed said Lingam had come to the ACA office to counter the statement given by his brother alleging corruption. He said the ACA was still recording the statements from Lingam based on the report made yesterday by Thirunama Karasu. "The case is still under investigation and we are gathering fresh evidence provided by the younger brother yesterday. We hope the information provided by both of them can help expedite the investigation," he told reporters when approached at the compound of the ACA office.= == = == = == =from Bernama

Wee Urges Acting CJ To Suspend Judge Mentioned In Police Report

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 21 (Bernama) -- Malaysian Democratic Party (MDP) secretay-general Wee Choo Keong has written to acting Chief Justice Datuk Abdul Hamid Mohamad urging him to suspend a judge named in a police report lodged by V. T. Thirunama Karasu against his elder brother, Datuk V. K. Lingam. Wee said he hoped the acting CJ would take note of the police report lodged on March 19 at Brickfields district police headquarters in which Thirunama had alleged that a judge currently attached to the appeals

court was among those involved in corruption. The MDP secretary-general said Thirunama had made a serious allegation against the judge and as acting CJ, Abdul Hamid should exercise his discretion by suspending the judge pending an inquiry by a Royal Commission to be set up. "A person facing such allegation should not be allowed to preside over cases," he said in a statement. He stressed that judges should be seen as fair and clean besides being free from allegations. Wee said he would wait for the acting CJ's response on his letter before deciding on the next course of action. Yesterday, Thirunama was quizzed by the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA) for more than seven hours over two police reports he lodged in March.
On Sunday, Thirunama told a press conference called by Wee, who is also his counsel, made several allegations of corruption against senior judges, a former attorney-general and a former Inspector-General of Police

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ABOVE: He came back with his big car and BELOW loaded with more documents (proof that is borther is "insane") in his briefcase to show ACA

UPDATE:: Nov 21 07, 10.10 pm
Senior Lawyer VK Lingam (ABOVE & BELOW) was spotted at ACA headquaters at Putra Jaya in the morning at about 10.00 am but left within a short while. He came again at about 2.50pm. An ACA spokeman said he was called up NOT related to the Video Clip but to clarify details of the Police reports made by his younger brother.

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ACA reopens Lingam probe; Charles Ramendran

PUTRAJAYA (Nov 21, 2007): The Anti-Corruption Agency today questioned lawyer Datuk V.K. Lingam for more than seven hours, based on new issues that have cropped up pertaining to a 1998 probe which did not then yield a prosecution. Its deputy director-general Datuk Abu Kassim Mohamad (BELOW) told reporters at the agency's headquarters that the 1998 probe was thorough, and the investigation papers were handed over to the Attorney-General's Chambers.

He said a decision was made on that case, but did not disclose what it was. "We called Lingam in because several things have cropped up. So we have to ask him about it," he said, adding that the senior lawyer had been called several times recently. Although he did not spell it out, Abu Kassim was obviously referring to the explosive allegations made by Lingam's brother Thirunama Karasu, 50, in a March 19 police report that Malaysian Democratic Party (MDP) secretary-general Wee Choo Keong publicised last Sunday.

Asked about the ACA's investigation into the controversial 2002 video clip featuring Lingam that will now be the subject of a Royal Commission of Inquiry, Abu Kassim declined to comment today, Lingam's session with the ACA was from 10am to 6.30pm, with a three-hour break just before lunch. After the session, he told reporters that he fully cooperated with the ACA, and denied all allegations made by his brother, saying they were false. On the 1998 probe, which was also prompted by Thirunama Karasu's report alleging delivery of gifts to top judges and a former top cop, Lingam said all allegations except for one matter were investigated. "They came to my house, searched legal files, bank accounts and interviewed my wife, maid, and bodyguard. Very deep, and very thorough. And they cleared me," said Lingam. He said the new allegation in his brother's report was about him giving RM50,000 to a former Industrial Court chairman in 1995.

He said the industrial court chairman mentioned in the report had retired in 1991, and he recruited him in May 1994 to work for his company. "The RM50,000 which I paid was him in 1995 was a bonus for his services. I have provided the ACA proof of this in the form of income tax documents. It was a lawful payment, not corruption," Lingam said. He said he also told the ACA officials about Thirunama Karasu's psychiatric problems, and then gave reporters copies of a doctor's report dated March 26, 1998, on his brother's mental state. Thirunama Karasu had earlier denied Lingam's assertion about his mental health, saying he did not know of any such medical record on him. He had also claimed that he was forced to admit himself for psychiatric treatment. Lingam, however, said his brother is in denial, and that he had also been treated at the University Hospital and Kuala Lumpur Hospital since1996. He also revealed that there were police reports lodged by family members against his brother for alleged assaults and that police had questioned him several times, and had warned him to change his ways or face prosecution.

Updated: 08:06PM Wed, 21 Nov 2007

= == = == = == Malaysiakini reported Lingam's brother: I am not mad!and in Malaysiakini.tv showed VK Lingam's brother endures 7-hour grilling by ACA
The ten-year old feud between the electrician younger brother and the elder VK lawyer has surfaced for the public to show all the dirty linens. Further disclosures by the younger brother seemed to corroborate and further reinforced the evidence in the 8 min video clip of V K’s exploitation of the Judiciary. His only way to silence and discredit his bother is to say that he is of unsound mind (now challenged by the younger brother) Even though the ACA has investigated his pass records and cleared him then, the new evidence surfaced in the disclosures could nailed him properly just like thet CCID Booss Datuk Ramli.

There was an attempt by VK to force him to go for a 2-year stay in psychiatric hospital feigning mental illness when an attempt “get him to make a false statement and told him to get himself admitted for two years in Hospital Bahagia (a psychiatric hospital)” failed.
And we would like to know how his younger brother “had lost his job at Tenaga Nasional Berhad”?. There must be efforts on his part to bring about this loss considering the considerable influence he has.

Like the former MP of Buki Bintang, Wee Choo Keong,(ABOVE) 1 day before the nomination (14 April 1995) for the 1995 GE he was slammed with a RM7000 fine (over some violation of an Injunction) which eventually was used to disqualify him as the elected MP. And that Dr Ayam (Dr Lee Chong Meng and another) filed an election suit. And on 2^nd August 1995 the infamous Chief Justice Datuk Ahmad Firuz gave judgment and disqualified him and appointed Dr Ayam as the MP without calling for a by-election. And Wee now would want to have his old problem investigated in the RCI if it is included in the terms of reference.
There are interesting times ahead before of the 12^th GE which is now widely speculated to be in March 2008 (before Datuk Anwar qualified to stand?). And that RM72M subsidy to the flour manufacturers to hold on to the price increase in order to “buy” back the loss voted if the price increase takes effect now.
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November 20, 2007 22:24 PM

Lingam's Brother Gives Statement To ACA

PUTRAJAYA, Nov 20 (Bernama) -- The Anti- Corruption Agency (ACA) today recorded a statement from V. T. Thirunama Karasu, in connection with two police reports lodged last March against his brother, lawyer Datuk V. K. Lingam. One of the reports which Karasu, 49, also known as Balan, was about Lingam's alleged relationship with judges while the other was for his safety. The reports were lodged on March 16 and 19.

About 11.30am, he turned up at the ACA office here, accompanied by his counsel, Wee Choo Keong,(ABOVE) following a request by the agency to have his statement recorded over the police reports. Until 6pm, Balan was not seen leaving the ACA building. Earlier, before entering the building, he told the media that he was not involved in the issue of a video clip which purportedly showed Lingam discussing judicial appointments over the phone with a senior judge. Balan also denied that he was mentally unstable as claimed by Lingam, adding that he had never received any (medical) treatment for such a condition.
"You (media) can check on my medical history, whether I suffered from any mental illness. Ask him (Lingam) to prove otherwise. "I went for medical check-up at the University Malaya Medical Centre, only because I was pressured by my brother and sister (Lakshmi)," he said, adding that he had instructed his lawyers to take legal action against his brother for baseless allegations against him. Meanwhile, Wee said two police reports were lodged by Balan on March 16 and 19 this year to protect his safety and on Lingam's alleged improper
relationship with judges.

Wee, however, said he did not see the rationale of the ACA asking Balan too many questions pertaining to the video clip, instead of focusing on the corruption matter involving judges. In 1998 and 2000, Balan lodged two reports to the ACA, alleging Lingam's involvement in corruption. However, he said no action was taken by the police.
On Sunday, Wee told a press conference that Balan claimed he was privy to various acts of corruption involving judges. Balan claimed that he used to send a former chief justice home, and that he even delivered handphones and briefcases to several judges. He also alleged that he was instructed to pay the handphone bills of a former inspector-general of police.
In a related development, ACA deputy director-general (I) Datuk Abu Kassim Mohamed told Bernama that recording Balan's statement was part of the agency's investigations.
"Following this, we hope to see new leads in the case," he said.

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Lingam dismisses brother's allegations as baseless

PETALING JAYA (Nov 19, 2007): Lawyer Datuk V.K. Lingam today dismissed as baseless the allegations of corruption made against him by his brother K.V. Thirunama Karasu in a March 19 police report. In a signed statement faxed to theSun, Lingam, who was featured in a 2002 video clip apparently brokering judicial appointments with a Datuk, described his brother as suffering from psychiatric problems and that he had made similar allegations against him to the Anti-Corruption Agency (ACA) in 1998. His statement was in response to several newspaper reports today regarding two police reports lodged on March 16 and 19 by Thirunama Karasu, 50, who is also known as Balan. "In 1998, Balan made several statements to the ACA, which allegations were similar to those made in his two police reports," said Lingam. "I was of course not privy to those statements but as a result, I was thoroughly investigated in 1998 by the ACA. I believe that the ACA did not pursue any action on the allegations made by Balanb as they and the Attorney-General's Chambers were aware of Balan's psychiatric condition. "Furthermore, the allegations were, in any event, baseless." He said Balan had also made the same allegations to several "prominent individuals", who declined to take matters further as they would have also realised his condition. "It is my greatest regret that Balan is now being used, manipulated and exploited by persons who certainly do not have his interest in mind but that of their own selfish motives and agenda. "Their attempts to sensationalise these baseless allegations will prove to be unfounded." Lingam admitted that Balan and he had had many serious differences on issues concerning the family, as a result of which they had "fallen out completely since late 1997". He also claimed that Balan had lost his job at Tenaga Nasional Berhad. Thirunama Karasu's March 16 report was about him being tailed, and that he feared for his and his family's safety. The March 19 report contained explosive allegations against Lingam of offers of gifts to a former top judge, a former police top brass and a former top officer of the Attorney-General's Chambers. He alleged that he and another brother were involved, either jointly or individually in delivering the gifts in 1996.

His report was revealed to the press by Malaysian Democratic Party (MDP) secretary-general Wee Choo Keong on Sunday.(ABOVE) Among other things, he alleged that he delivered a new leather briefcase, a wallet and a lady's leather bag to a former top judge's house in 1996, and four handphones to the former top judge and two former judges. He also alleged that he saw Lingam hand over a cheque for RM50,000 to a former industrial court chairman. Thirunama Karasu had also claimed that in 1998, Lingam had sent three lawyers to get him to make a false statement and told him to get himself admitted for two years in Hospital Bahagia (a psychiatric hospital), but that he refused. He said he was also told to act depressed and mentally unstable and to get admission to University Hospital. Petaling Jaya police chief ACP Arjunaidi Mohammed confirmed receiving two police reports lodged by Lingam's brother in March. He declined to disclose details of the reports but said police referred one of them to the ACA after examining it. He added that the other report did not contain any criminal element for police to pursue.

ACA director-general Datuk Ahmad Said Hamdan could not be reached for commen

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Lawyer V.K. Lingam's brother lodges 'explosive' report

Maria J. Dass

PETALING JAYA (Nov 19, 2007): A brother of prominent lawyer Datuk V.K. Lingam has lodged a police report against him, containing explosive allegations of offers of gifts to a former top judge, a former police top brass, and a former top officer of the Attorney-General's Chambers. Electrician K.V. Thirunanama Karasu, 50, made the report on March 19 this year, in which he said he and another brother were involved, either individually or jointly, in delivering the gifts in 1996. This report is pursuant to another report which he lodged three days earlier at Kelana Jaya where he alleged that he was being followed and watched and that he feared for his life and safety of his family, because of a report he had wanted to lodge against Lingam and all those involved.

The March 19 police report was given to reporters today by Malaysian Democratic Party (MDP) secretary- general Wee Choo Keong (pix), who said Thirunama Karasu called him 10 days ago for help and subsequently gave him a copy of his report. Thirunama Karasu was not present at today's press conference at the MDP office at SS2.(BELOW)

Police on Sunday were not able to confirm receiving the report but a source said such reports are usually referred to the Federal Commercial Crimes Investigations Department and if any elements of corruption are found, the department will liaise with the Anti-Corruption Agency. In his report, Thirunama Karasu named the gifts that he delivered:

* A new leather briefcase (containing some documents), a wallet and a lady's leather handbag, delivered to a former top judge's house in 1996.
* Three bowls of soup prepared by a brother's wife for the former top judge's wife who was sick at that time (no date given).
* Four handphones and one extra battery to the former top judge and two former judges.

Thirunama Karasu also alleged that in 1995, he saw Lingam handing over a cheque for RM50,000 to a former industrial court chairman. In that year, he also witnessed a dinner hosted by Lingam at his house in SS7, Kelana Jaya, for the former top judge and a former senior judge and their wives and children. Thirunama Karasu also alleged that he had driven Lingam to the former top judge's house, usually at about 11.30pm, and the latter would be carrying a big bundle of files. But when he returned to pick him up between 12.30am and 1am, he would be carrying a single file. His police report also alleged that in 1996, he received cash from Lingam to settle a handphone bill in the name of a former top policeman. Thirunama Karasu also recounted an incident in 1996, in which his brother instructed him, another sibling and a family friend to withdraw large sums of money from a bank in Jalan Sultan Ismail upon receiving information that the Anti-Corruption Agency was going to Lingam’s office to investigate the Perwaja Steel corruption case.

Some of the money was banked into his and the family friend's accounts and five bank drafts for 60,000 pound sterling each were later banked into his account, and the accounts of five other people in London. Thirunama Karasu claimed that in 1998, Lingam warned him not to tell the ACA about his dealings with the former judges and the former top policeman and those involved after he (Thirunama Karasu) gave a full statement to lawyer "Datuk Safee (sic) Abdullah and Sulaiman Abdullah". His police report did not mention the context in which he had given that statement. However, he did say that in December 1997, he was forced to sign a statutory declaration prepared by Lingam, and another brother. "In 1998, my brother sent three lawyers who forced me into making a false statement and made me sign the statement on 81 pages. They then told me to get admitted for two years in Hospital Bahagia. I refused. They then told me to put up an act that I was very depressed and mentally unstable and get admitted in University Hospital," said Thirunama Karasu.
"They put fear into me during the 1998 ACA investigations and I told them that in 1998, the first and third statement which I gave ACA was true and the second statement was false," he added. Wee said there was no link between the sources of the 14-minute video clip released by Parti Keadilan Rakyat adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim in September and Thirunama Karasu's police report. He said the decision to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry to investigate the video clip as announced by the prime minister on Friday should also take into account the contents of this police report.

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Lingam ready to cooperate

By EDDIE CHUA; STAR
KUALA LUMPUR: Lawyer Datuk V.K. Lingam, who is implicated in a controversial videoclip which allegedly showed him brokering the appointment of judges, has said he is willing to appear before the soon-to-be set up Royal Commission of Inquiry. “I will make myself available, anytime. I will comply with the commission in accordance with the due process of the law,” he said. This is the first time Lingam has spoken about the matter since the controversial videoclip surfaced about two months ago. “It is an ongoing investigation. I cannot comment on this case. That is why I had not spoken or issued any statement on this matter earlier,” he said yesterday. Lingam said although he had met the Anti-Corruption Agency on the investigation into the videoclip, he was not at liberty to discuss the matter or what had been said to the agency.

He also refused to discuss anything pertaining to the videoclip. The clip supposedly shows a prominent lawyer talking on the phone with a senior judge about the appointment of the Chief Justice in 2002. The clip was the subject of an investigation by a three-man independent panel set up by the Government on Sept 25. The panel, comprising former Chief Judge of Malaya Tan Sri Haidar Mohd Noor, former Court of Appeal judge Datuk Mahadev Shankar and social activist Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye, concluded their investigation before the Nov 8 deadline. Culture, Arts and Heritage Minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz and Home Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Radzi Sheikh Ahmad were directed to study the reports by the panel. They will brief the Cabinet tomorrow. On Friday, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had said a Royal Commission would be established to inquire into the videoclip based on the report submitted by the independent panel. In Parliament House yesterday, Nazri said the details and composition of the commission as well as its terms of reference would be discussed at tomorrow’s Cabinet meeting. “The details will be known then,” he told reporters. Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang meanwhile called for the Royal Commission to be empowered to look into all aspects that affect the independence and integrity of the judiciary. He said the commission should not be investigating only the videoclip but also the judiciary

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Senior lawyer: Brother being manipulated

PETALING JAYA: Lawyer Datuk V.K. Lingam regrets that his younger brother, who lodged two police reports against him, has been made used of by people with their own agenda.

“It is my greatest regret that he is now being used, manipulated and exploited by persons who certainly do not have his interest in mind but that of their own selfish motives and agenda,” he said in a statement yesterday. Wee: Was mentioned in the videoclip purportedly showing the brokering of the appointment of judges. It was reported that Lingam’s brother, Thirunama Karasu, an electrician who is also known as Balan, had lodged two police reports on March 16 and March 19.

The reports, which were made public by Malaysian Democratic Party secretary-general Wee Choo Keong during a press conference on Sunday, contained allegations against Lingam, retired judges, retired top court officials and a former high-ranking police officer. Lingam said the attempts by these people to sensationalise the baseless allegations would prove to be unfounded. He said his brother was suffering from health problems and that they had fallen out completely since late 1997 after experiencing serious differences on family issues. He said Balan had made several statements to the Anti-Corruption Agency and the allegations were similar to those made in his two police reports. “I was of course not privy to those statements but as a result, I was thoroughly investigated in 1998 by the ACA. “Furthermore, the allegations were, in any event, baseless,” he said. Lingam has been implicated in a videoclip which purportedly showed a senior lawyer brokering the appointment of judges. Wee, whom the Election Court disqualified after his election as MP of Bukit Bintang in 1990, was mentioned in the videoclip. Last night, Wee said he knew Balan as a normal person with a sound mind. He urged Lingam to lodge a police report if Balan had lodged false reports against him.

BCKGROUND - the police reports

= == = ==from Rocky's notes: The following is the content of Police Report [report no Kelana Jaya A/002187/07] lodged on 19 March 2007 by Thirunama Karasu a/l Kandar Velupillai against Dato V. Kanagalingam. Mr Karasu claimed to be Dato VK Lingam's brother. This report was lodged with the Brickfields police station.

16 March 2007 Report at Kelana Jaya

Yesterday on 15.03.2007 at about 7.00 pm I saw a car myvi green colour parked near my house at no xxx Jln ssxx/x Kelana Jaya Petaling Jaya. When I came out the car drove away speeding. I had no time to take down the vehicle's no. Plate. Then on 07.03.2007 someone called up my house (03-xxxxxxxx), I answered but no one spoke and the person kept silence and hang up the phone. I believe someone is keeping an eye on me and now I have been followed. I believe there are my brother's people and now I fear for my life and the safety of my family. This things are happening to me now because I wanted to lodge a police report at Bukit Aman on 06.03.2007 on all corruption cases of my brother Datuk V. Kanagalingam and all those who are involved. I also would like to lodge this report against my brother a lawyer who has his own firm V.K.Lingam & Co, who has treatened to harm me in 1996, 1997 and 1998. That all my report.

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Pengadu menyatakan:

Further to my report dated 16 March 2007 Kelana Jaya report nomber 2115/07, I now wish to add further because the I.O Tuan Saiful in this case from Kelana Jaya refuse to take my statements in details and therefore I had to lodge this further report to set out details. I fear my life and the safety of my family because I wanted to lodge a police report at Bukit Aman on 6 March 2007 on all corruption cases of my brother Datuk V. Kanalingam and those involved in these corruption cases with my brother are as follows.

1) I was used by my brother V. Kanagalingam to corrupt the former chief judge Tun Eusoff Chin, the former attorney general Tan Sri Mohtar Abdullah, the former IGP Tan Sri Rahim Noor, the present court of appeal judges Datuk Mohtar Sidin, the present court of appeal judge Dato Low Hop Bing and a former judge Dato K L Rekraj.

2) in 1995 I witness my brother Dato V. Kanagalingam corrupting a former industrialist court chairman Mr Satchi where I saw my brother handing over a cheque in the sum of RM 50,000.00.

3) In 1995 I witness a dinner hosted by my brother Dato V. Kanagalingam at his house no 1 Jalan SS 7/24 Kelana Jaya 47301 PJ for the former chief judge Tun Eusoff Chin's wife and children were present. Also present in this dinner were the former court of appeal president tan Sri Lamin Yunus and his wife, my other brother Dato V. Sivapranjothi a lawyer, my brother V. Panjaratnam a engineer, Dato V. Kanagalingam's bodyguard Encik Ramli and Budiman, and a Malay security guard. My borther's wife Datin Ghanajothy and children Sivasakti, Sivajothi were also present in this dinner. I was told by my brother Datuk V. Kanagalingam to come for this dinner because to clean up the house and garden, arrange the table and chairs prior to the dinner.

4) In 1996 I delivered a new leather briefcase, a wallet, a lady's leather hand beg, some documents were in the briefcase. I personally delivered this things to Tun Eusoff Chin in person in his house. I was told by my brother Dato V. Kanagalingam to deliver this things.

5) I was told by my brother Dato V. Kanagalingam to go to tun eusoff chin's house with my other brother v. Panjaratnam to deliver 3 bowls of soup which was prepared by v. Panjaratnam's wife rebecca for tun eusoff chin wife who was sick at that time. I and my brother v. Panjaratnam went there in a proton wira bearing no bdv 1862 belonging to panjaratnam.

6) i have also sent my brother dato v. Kanagalingam using my car a nissan sunny 130y bearing no plate wbs 9443 to tun eusoff chin's house. I have also went with my brother dato v. Kanagalingam a number of times using his car a bmw 988 a merc 320 wed 5 a honda car belonging to datin ghanajothy, a volvo caf 45, a old white merz (8101) another bmw (wdn) a proton wira bdv 1862 belonging to v. Panjaratnam. The former driver mr chandran have also sent dato v. Kanalingam to eusoff chin's house. Whenever i sent my brother dato v. Kanagalingam to eusoff chin's house, he dato v. K will be carring a very big bundle of files and when i go back to pick him up he will be carrying back a single file. I usually sent my brother dato v. Kanagalingam at about 11.30 pm and pick him up at about 12.30 pm to 1.00 am.

7) in 1996 cash was given to me by my brother dato v. Kanagalingam to purchase handphone from mutiara telecommunications sdn bhd lot 1 level 1 shahzan prudential tower at no 30 jalan sultan simail kl. For tun eusoff chin. This phone was delivered to tun eusoff chon's house by a family friend mr francis kok chee khoon.

8) i have also in 1996 given a cash cehque by my other brother dato v. Sivapranjothi a lawyer to purchase a handphone for former judge k.l rekraj. I delievered this handphone in person to dato k.l rekraj at his house. He dato k.l rekraj asked me for extra batteries. This phone was registered under dato k.l rekraj wife.

9) a family friend mr francis kok chee khoon have also take my brothers dato v. Kanagalingam and dato v. Sivapranjotho to tun eusoff chin's house.

10) in 1996 i was told by my brother dato v. Kanagalingam to sent a old heavy briefcase (a dark brown) to the present court of appeal judge dato low hop bing. He dato v. Kanagalingam told me taht dato low hop bing accidentally left the briefcase in the car bearing number plate caf 45 a volvo. Mr francis kok chee khoon was present when i collected the briefcase in front of dato v. Kanagalingam's house.

11) in 1996 i and mr francis kok chee khoon was told by my brother dato v. Kanagalingam to deliver 2 nos handphone to the present court of appeal judge dato mohtar sidin at jalan gurney kuala lumpur. I and mr francis kok chee khoon went there in a volvo caf 45. I have also gone to dato mohthar sidin's house with my brother dato v. Kanagalingam. I have also gone to dato mohtar sidin's house in jalan gurney using my motorbike bearing no plate wax 6191 a yamaha to sent documents and also deliver a handphone.

12) in 1996 cash was given to me by my brother dato v. Kanagalingam to settle a handphone bill in the name of former igp tan sri rahim noor. Sometimes the handphone bills of former igp tan sri rahim noor is settle by my sister chinmaya devi who is employed with v.k lingam & co and sometimes by mr francis kok chee khoon and also by a former colonel.

13) in 1996 may i was at my brothers office at shahzan tower with my brother dato v. Kanagalingam and my sister chinmaya devi. All a sudden my uncle mr. Perincuramasamy came rushing to inform my bother dato v. Kanagalingam that the aca is coming to my brother's office to investigate corruption on perwaja steel.

Before the aca can come to my brother office dato v. Kanagalingam told me, chinmaya devi (my sister) and francis chee koon to withdraw large sum of money from oriental bank jalan sultan ismail under the account of dato v. Kanagalingam. Dato v. Kanagalingam olso told me to take 5 nos bank draft each amounting 60,000.00 pounds. I also was told by my brother dato v. Kanagalingam to open a account under my name in public bank and bank in rm 275,000.00 which i di. Mr francis kok chee khoon also withdraw a largesum of moneywhich he put in the black big bag and later bank in into his account. My sister chinmaya devi also withdraw a large sum of money and followed mr francis kok chee khoon. I did not know what my sister chinmayadevi did with the money.

Later the five bank drafts of 60,000.00 pounds each was bank in to the account of the following person in london. This people followed dato v. Kanagalingam to london before going to usa mayo clinic in rochester minnesota.

1) mr k suppiah 60,000.00 pounds was bank into his account in london

2) datin ghanajothi 60,000.00 pounds were bank into her account in london

3) mr rajendra vellupillai 60,000.00 pounds was bank into his account in london

4) thirunama karasu vellupillai 60,000.00 was put into my account in london

5) dato v. Kanagalingam 60,000.00 pounds was put into his account in london

6) v. Kanakalashimi rm 100,000.00 given cash at no 28 section 21/1 sea park pj at her house.

14) in 1998 my brother dato v. Kanagalingam came to my house and took me in his volvo (940) to chinese restaurant in sea park section 21/1. My sister v. Kanakalashmi also came to the restaurant. In this restaurant my brother dato k. Kanagalingam threatened me not to tell the aca about his dealing with the judges, the former igp tan sri rahim noor and also those involved. He told me that i make sure something will happen to me and that i have mentioned the judges and former igp. The police will arrest me and my children will be kidnapped by the judges. He threatened because i have given a full statement to a lawyer now known as dato safee abdullah of safee & co in 1997 at his house together with mr sulaiman abdullah a lawyer present. Further more in 1997 december i was forced to sign a statutory declaration which was prepared by my brother dato v. Sivapranjothi and dato v. Kanagalingam at a hotel value inn kelang selangor. Others who forced me sigh the statutory declaration were mr satci, sister v. Kanagalashmi, sister chinmayadevi and brotherv. Panjaratnam.

In 1998 march my brother sent 3 lawyers mr c. Vijayakumar, dato sithambaram, dato kumarendran who forced me into making a false statement and made me sign the statement on 81 pages. They then told me to get admitted for two years in hospital bahagia ipoh. I refused. They then told me to put up a act that i am very depressed and mentally unstable and get admitted to university hospital. They put fear into me during the 1998 aca investigation. I told them that in 1998 the first statement and the third statement which i gave to the aca in 1998 is true and the second statement is false.