Friday, August 17, 2007

SAMY VELLU Hits Back at HINDRAF 18-Point Allegations Memo & Marginalization of Indians; Samy’s Dressing Down by PM Abdullah – PWD Poor Assets Manageme

ABOVE & BELOW: Malaysiakini had the breaking story last Sunday, 12 Aug 07 on the Protest and Now Samy Vellu has hit back at the Protesters who submitted a Memo to the PM office while he was away and a Video Clip (4 min), details H E R E

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MORE PICS – More than 500 “No Merdeka for Malaysian Indians” Protest - Putra Jaya, Aug 12 07; Attempt-Fail to Submit Memo to PM Abdullah on the Plight of Indians after 50 Years; ALL POOR MUST BE HELP= = == = = == = =

August 17, 2007 19:11 PM ; Samy Vellu Hits Back At NGO By S. Retnanathan

PUTRAJAYA, Aug 17 (Bernama) -- MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu (ABOVE) today launched a stinging attack against a non-governmental organisation, the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF), which claimed that the Barisan Nasional (BN) government had done little to address the woes of the Malaysian Indian community over the last 50 years. "I must state here that if there is anything that affects the Indian community, the MIC will be there to fight it out even when we are partners of the Barisan Nasional. To me, I have never remained idle and I don't waste time," Samy Vellu, who is also Works Minister, told Bernama today.

The MIC supremo was asked to comment on a 18-point memorandum by HINDRAF, which was handed to the Prime Minister's office last Sunday by the organisation's chairman P. Waytha Moorthy, secretary V.K Regu and its legal adviser P. Uthayakumar. Apart from stating that the Indian community was marginalised by the BN government, in the memorandum, HINDRAF also wanted an end to special privileges given to Malays. The memorandum also took a dig at Umno asking the largest political party in the country to "stop playing politics" through the "mandore" (supervisor) system by dishing out aid to the Indian community on a piecemeal basis.

Yesterday, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi (ABOVE), when asked to comment on the memorandum at a press conference here, could only exclaim saying: "My God, how can they say so?" Abdullah, who is also Umno president, had said that anyone saying the ruling BN government did not help the Indian community was going overboard and that if at all the BN had failed to aid the community; there would have been friction in ties between the community and the other races long ago. "If we had not done anything, we would have quarrelled a long time ago, we don't wait for him (Datuk Seri Samy Vellu) only.

The Indians are not stupid, they also know (what the government does for the Indian community)," said Abdullah. Samy Vellu today thanked Abdullah for stating that the BN government had always assisted the Indian community to advance economically and socially in the country. "I am rather sad to hear that there are groups who still claim that the Indian community is 50 years backward despite the continuous efforts taken by the government to address the needs of the Indian community. Any fair minded person would acknowledge the many achievements of the Indian community in economics, religion, education and social aspects," he said.

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50th year Merdeka (Independence) demands by the two (2) million ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia to Y.A.B. DatoSeri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi Prime Minister of Malaysia on Sunday the 12th day of August 2007 at 10.00a.m at Seri Perdana, Putrajaya Malaysia.

1. Whereas:
The Reid Commission was appointed by her Majesty the Queen of England and the Conference of Rulers in 1956 with the view to Malaya (and now Malaysia) achieving independence by August 1957.Among the primary terms of reference of the Reid Commission were a Common Nationality for the whole of the Federation.
2. And whereas

The overwhelming of the 131 written memoranda submitted to the Reid Commission as evidenced by the declassified documents from the Public Records Office, Kew, London, United Kingdom which represented the will and wishes of the then Malayan population were primarily equality and equal opportunities etc for all Malayans irrespective of race or religion as follows: -
2.1 In the grant of state land,
2.2 Admission to public and administrative service;
2.3 To trade and do business, licences, permits etc
2.4 Primary, secondary, skills Training, university and overseas university education.2.5 No special privileges for the Malays,
2.6 No discrimination of any ethnic community based on race or religion,
2.7 The retention of all their places of worship in particular Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites,
2.8 Freedom of Religion,
Malaya is to be a Secular State and not an Islamic state,
2.10 Right to mother tongue education in particular Tamil schools to be fully
2.11 Minimum wage for the lowest paid, and
2.12 Equal recognition as sons of soil for all Malayan bo
3. And whereas

Based on the aforesaid proposals the Malaysian Federal Constitution, which is the supreme law of Malaysia as drawn out by the Reid Commission in 1957 was passed by the inaugural Malayan Parliament and which formed the basis of independent Malaysia.
4. And whereas
Over the last 50 years since independence on the 31st day of August 1957, the United Malays Organisation (UMNO) controlled Malaysian government with their majoritarian might, and backed by police, Attorney General’s Chambers, Judiciary, civil service and the media continuously violated the Malaysian Federal Constitution by their racist and Islamic extremist policies and which in effect have created an apartheid system ala Malaysia and especially resulting in the degeneration of at least 70% of the ethnic minority Indians to become the underclass of Malaysia who end up in the poor and hardcore poor category. The rest of the 29% raised above the poor and hardcore poor category wholly and/or substantially through their own efforts, sacrifices and labour with no or very little assistance by the UMNO controlled government. The 1% of the cream thrives anyway.
5. And whereas
The plight of the Indians have been made worse by the racist UMNO mindset having spilled over to even almost all of the Opposition parties, NGOs’, Civil society, Malaysian Human Rights Commission (Suhakam), Bar Council, the media etc who do not take up the Indian plight for they are deemed to be lacking “political mileage” (race based) and/or no funding.
6. And whereas
The Indians having no or very little opportunities for upward mobility or hope either turn to crime (60% of Malaysian detainees are Indians though they are only 8% of population-Suhakam 2005) or end up committing suicide which is 1000% higher than Malays (Utusan Malaysia 12.9.2005).

7. And Whereas at a public forum attended by 1,000 over Indians on 28.7.2007 at 7.00p.m at the Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall, the participants unanimously resolved to forward their 18 point demands and which this peaceful assembly gathered here today on the 12th day of August 2007 at Putrajaya once again unanimously resolves to demand as hereinbelow outlined.
And now it is hereby demanded for and on behalf of the two (2) Million ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia from the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government their 18 point demands as follows:

(1) End 50 years of violations of the Malaysian Federal Constitution.
(2) End Racism, end Islamic extremism and end Malay privileges on the 50th year golden jubilee mega
Independence celebrations of Malaysia on 31st August 2007.
(3) Call for affirmative action plans for all poor Malaysians especially the ethnic minority Indians. A Protection of Ethnic Minority Malaysian Indian Act 2007 be passed to secure and safeguard the interests of the poor and defenceless ethnic Indian Minority Community.
(4) All 523 Tamil Schools in Malaysia be made fully aided government schools with immediate effect and to have equal and same facilities as granted to national schools especially in terms of financial allocations, sufficient graduate teaching staff, financial allocation for extra tuition, ample computers, Information Technology facilities, school fields, sports, recreational facilities, air conditioned library, textbook loans, kindergarden, school uniforms and pocket money for poor pupils, nutritional food programmes, teaching aids, school building, infrastructure, film screening room and facilities, financial assistance for poor students, rehabilitation classes, non Muslim religious classes, etc. A RM 100 Billion grant @ 20 Billion per year with effect from 2007 be allocated to Indians under the 9th Malaysia Plan (5 years) for refurbishing the existing 523 Tamil schools and rebuilding of the 300 Tamil schools demolished over the last 50 years.
(5) Extend and implement with immediate effect to Indians the affirmative action plans, grants, scholarships, loans etc as extended to Malay Muslim citizens with the view to providing equal opportunities for higher education, university education, admission to foreign universities, post graduate studies locally and overseas, Trade and Skills Training Institutions, Science Colleges especially for each and every Indian student from the 70% poor and hardcore poor Indian category.
(6) Extend and implement with immediate effect affirmative action plans as extended to Malay Muslim citizens with the view to provide equal opportunities in acquiring wealth, venturing into business, trade, industries, medium and small scale industries, government linked companies, corporate sector, procurement of direct government contracts, in acquiring licenses for contractors, blue chip and / or guaranteed return shares, lorry, taxi and bus permits, loans and licenses to venture into trade, business banking and the corporate sector for each and every Indian from especially the 70% poor and hardcore poor Indian category. To this effect the UMNO controlled government allocates RM100 Billion at RM20 Billion per annum with effect from 2007 and implements successful strategic schemes in investments for the Indians as implemented for the Malay Muslims with the view to the Indians acquiring at least 10% of the nation’s equity.
(7) All the aforesaid is to be handled directly by the UMNO controlled government and UMNO is to stop “playing politics” through the “Mandore” (supervisor) system by dishing out on a piecemeal and/or peanuts basis or merely public and/or newspaper announcements and declarations by the Malaysian Indian Congress (M.I.C) who have no or very little power or say in the UMNO controlled Malaysian government.

(8) 20% of the Government top most level postings (Secretaries Generals), Middle level Management (Directors) and management level (Managers) postings, and the same for the Private Sectors, and positions of District Officers; Foreign and Diplomatic Service positions, civil service positions are reserved for Indians for the next 15 years.
(9) The UMNO controlled government makes public and is transparent on all of the aforesaid affirmative action plans i.e. the aforesaid education places, licenses, scholarships, grants, loans, permits, licenses, opportunities etc by publishing the same in the official website of the Government of Malaysia as and when the same is granted and/or on a monthly basis specifying the Indian beneficiaries thereto.
(10) Stop the indiscriminate unconstitutional and unlawful demolitions of Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites in Malaysia. All existing Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites be granted state land and permanently gazetted as Hindu temple reserves as has been done for all Islamic places of worship and burial sites. Compensation at RM10 Million per temple be paid by the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government for the 15,000 Hindu temples demolished up to date over the last 50 years.
Every individual given the Right to practice and profess Religion/s of his/her choice in accordance to Standards adopted by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948. The State and its Authorities barred from interfering in the personal beliefs and conscience of individual citizens . Disputes between Muslims & Non Muslims should be adjudicated in the Civil Courts.

(11) Stop the victimization and direct discrimination by the Police and all other state authorities of the Indians. All Malaysians earning RM 3,000.00 and below are to be fully borne by state funded legal aid for any criminal charges they face.
(12) The UMNO controlled government forms with immediate effect a Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Kg Medan Mini Genocide, condemns the violence thereto, apologises to the Indian community on this mini genocide, undertakes not to repeat the same in future and pay a compensation of RM1,000,000.00 for each and every citizen killed, permanently maimed, maimed or injured in this tragedy.
(13) Each and every Indian especially the Indian poor in the aforesaid 70% Indian poor and hardcore poor category is paid compensation which is to be adjudicated and determined by the United Nations Secretary General for the aforesaid 50 years of Constitutional violations by the UMNO controlled government.
(14) All homeless Malaysians are to be provided affordable homes and not low cost flats by law. A minimum wage of RM1,000.00 for each and every Malaysian be made law.
(15) A Royal Commission of Inquiry is initiated to report on the aforesaid constitutional violations by the UMNO controlled government and appropriate recommendations for amongst others further affirmative action plans for especially the 70% Indian poor and hardcore poor category.
(16) All forms of racial and religious discrimination, oppression and suppression of the Indians / Hindus in both the public and private sectors are stopped with immediate effect and a Race Relations Commission Act 2007, an Equal Opportunities Commission Act 2007 and a Freedom of Religion Commissions Act 2007 be passed and powerful Commission thereto be put into force to give effect to anti racism, anti Islamic extremism and anti direct discrimination practices by the UMNO controlled government in both the public and private sectors.
(17) The UMNO controlled government passes specific laws to give effect to the Independence of the Judiciary, the Attorney General’s Chambers, Civil service, Police Force, Army, the Malaysian Human Rights Commission and the Malaysian media and for the Opposition parties, NGOs’ Civil Society groups, Bar Council and the media not to discriminate and side step Indian issues but instead to voice out the same without fear or favour. The Malaysian media is also to be legislated to report the real happenings especially on the 70% Indian poor and hardcore poor without fear or favour.
(18) A minimum of 20 Opposition members of Parliament are elected exclusively by the Indian Community to represent their interest at the highest political level and also as a Parliamentary Democracy check and balance and the same is safeguarded and entrenched into the Federal Constitution and which is to be increased proportionately with the increase in Parliamentary seats.
Proposer: P.Waytha Moorthy Seconder: V.K Regu; (Chairman, Hindraf) (Secretary, Hindraf)

Compiled by P.Uthayakumar legal Adviser, Hindraf based on the ground reality, sentiments, pulse, blood, sweat and tears of the Malaysian Indians after 50 years of marginalisation, discrimination, oppression and suppression by the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government.

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This comes on the heels of a heated exchange in Parliament between Samy Vellu and Ipoh Timur MP Lim Kit Siang, who had accused the minister of being responsible for the "underclass" status of Indians. Samy defended himself, saying that Indians were "doing far better" than they had been in the past. However, Kulasegaran begged to differ with the minister’s opinion.
ABOVE: Kulasegaran holding the book on Maika

"It is a known fact that the Indians have lost out in almost all aspects of progress compared to the other major communities in Malaysia," he said, reading from a statement. He said the position of Indians has plummeted during Samy Vellu’s tenure as a cabinet minister, citing as examples the “now worthless” RM100 million Maika Bhd investment fund and the 5 percent drop in the number of Indians in civil service since 1980. "We have facts and reasons to dispute Samy,” added Kulasegaran.

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"This is not a cheap contract to be given out to someone who wants to make some money. Please forget about that. They have to be good and they must have all the equipments. They must have sufficient number of good workers who already trained and have sufficient experience to do the job'
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BELOW (a closed up view): Just look at Samy’s face; his curled down lips when he listened to what his Boss was saying about his PWD; he should do what an ostrich should do

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PWD Asked To Tighten Up National Asset Management Procedures

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 13 (Bernama) -- The Public Works Department (PWD) has been instructed to draw up a more efficient and effective procedural framework in efforts to enhance the management of national assets and facilities, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said. The prime minister said it would be the basis for an action plan comprising a set of clear guidelines and detailed rules and regulations on a system to ensure such assets and facilities were well managed.

ABOVE: The few foreign participants invited to present some papers, which were really common sense advices

"I believe that it's the people's wish to see that the action plan be implemented as soon as possible to prevent problems related to poor maintenance like the ones seen lately," he said in his keynote address at the National Asset and Facility Management Convention (Nafam) 2007 at the Putra World Trade Centre here today.

Abdullah also wanted all government departments to set up monitoring units to conduct periodic checks on their respective assets and facilities to ensure they were well taken care of. Stern action would be taken against anyone, especially government officers, who failed to carry out their duty of maintaining national properties properly, he said.

Abdullah said the monitoring units could be made up of civil servants at the respective departments."Assign people on a regular basis to check on every asset and facility, the toilet for example, to ensure that it's not only clean but also smells nice.

"They should also check on any tell-tale signs or problems that need to be attended to quickly, and immediately report the matter to the maintenance department," he said.

The prime minister noted that the maintenance culture had not caught on among Malaysians."If we don't give serious attention to this, perhaps one day the roof will collapse on our heads and so on. Make it a habit to conduct checks at all times to ensure that everything is in good working condition. Inform the department if something needs to be fixed," Abdullah said. Abdullah said national assets could be properly maintained if the people were willing to change their mindsets and adopt first-class mentality.

"This is important not only for public servants tasked with managing national assets but also the people who use them. Everybody should feel responsible for the common property," he said. On the convention themed "Asset and Facility Management: The Challenges Ahead" which is being organised for the first time, Abdullah said it was timely and demonstrated the government's commitment in coming up with a long-term and comprehensive plan to improve upon existing asset and facility management mechanism. He said problems of roof leakages, cracks in highways and new buildings not meeting the required standards should not have happened. This was because such incidents could cast doubt on the performance and the ability of the public and private sectors in managing national assets and facilities, he said. Abdullah hoped that the convention would come up with concrete, practical and realistic ideas which could help the government formulate a framework for national asset management from which an action plan could be developed.

Several government buildings have been hit by a spate of unfortunate incidents this year, starting with the pipe burst at the Immigration headquarters followed by the ceiling collapse at the multi-purpose hall of the Entrepreneur Development and Cooperatives Ministry, both in Putrajaya. The roof of Parliament building also had a severe leakage problem. The two-day convention is being attended by 1,200 participants.

ABOVE & BELOW: The local participants who came to warm the seats and boast the 1200 participants figure. Many would be from outstations and from the various sub districts with PWD offices and when they go back - the first thing to do is to submit their claims for the conference; the mileage, the accommodation (hotel or no hotel), the daily allowance etc and it will run into hundreds of Ringgit. And the Conference will be taxpayer's money down the drain. Do you think just just two days will change their mindset and implement what they heard ?(enter from left ear and escape to the right). You see most of them are not even provided with a pencil & paper to jot down what they heard. This is Malaysia bolih

Several government buildings have been hit by a spate of unfortunate incidents this year, starting with the pipe burst at the Immigration headquarters followed by the ceiling collapse at the multi-purpose hall of the Entrepreneur Development and Cooperatives Ministry, both in Putrajaya. The roof of Parliament building also had a severe leakage problem. The two-day convention is being attended by 1,200 participants.

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August 17, 2007 19:43 PM
Musa Hassan's Service Extended Until September 2009

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 17 (Bernama) -- Tan Sri Musa Hassan's service as Inspector-General of Police has been extended by two years until Sept 13, 2009. Internal Security Ministry Secretary-General Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof said in a statement today that the appointment under contract takes effect on Sept 14, a day after Musa compulsorily retires after nearly 38 years of service. The Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin has assented to the appointment based on Prime Minster Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's advice following the Police Commission's recommendation, said Abdul Aziz who is the commission's secretary.

Musa was appointed to the post on
Sept 12, 2006 succeeding Tan Sri Mohd Bakri Omar. Musa, a law graduate from United Kingdom, joined the service as an inspector on Nov 11, 1969. Since then, he has held several important posts in the Royal Malaysia Police including as Melaka Prosecuting Officer in 1973, Bukit Aman Narcotics Division Director in 1981 and Kuala Kubu Baharu Police College Lecturer in 1986. Musa held the post of Bukit Aman Prosecution/Criminal Law Deputy Assistant Director in 1995 and Johor Chief Police Officer in 2003.
In 1999, he headed the team which investigated a sodomy case involving former deputy prime minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim. In 2004, he was appointed as Criminal Investigation Department Director before being made Deputy Inspector-General of Police a year later and then as the Inspector-General of Police the following year
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MORE PICS – 500 Malaysian Indians Protest - Putra Jaya, Aug 12 07; Abolish Privileges, ALL POOR MUST BE HELPED; Plight of Indians after 50 Years

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Watch Video Clip (2min 46s)SAMY & Government Failed the Indian Community; Over 2 Months He submitted Reports; Meetings, KIV; Now Special Committee - Eyewash?

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With Comments from Anwar Ibrahim & Professor Emeritus Khoo

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Blogger Billy said...

"....and that if at all the BN had failed to aid the community; there would have been friction in ties between the community and the other races long ago. If we had not done anything, we would have quarrelled a long time ago, we don't wait for him (Datuk Seri Samy Vellu) only."
For a prime minister to make such a statement definitely manifests his ignorance of things happening in this country. Can I just remind him of the Kg Medan incident. The Indian community did not want to raise this issue because they believe the great Samy would do something about their social predicament, but he failed them. The Maika shares is a very good example. So what the do the Indians do? They stomach their problems for a long time and finally they felt it was time to speak out. I believe they have reached the end of the line and the government instead of shunning them, have better listen. If Samy has done one good for the Indian community, I believe one Indian can give 10 good reasons that he didn't. And if the BN (read UMNO) have done something good for the Indians, name one. When was the last time an Indian company was given a government project to handle?

5:45 AM  
Blogger wanlin said...

Indians pls help yourself instead of asking the government or Samy to help. I've known lots of good Indians who are hardworking, smart and willing to put up good effort to ensure that they lead a quality life.

Chinese came to this country decades ago and work as slaves too.......

well, the 2nd richest man in Malaysia is an Indian. It speaks for itself.

11:48 PM  
Anonymous Kavitha said...

I believe ethnic Indians in Malaysia still enjoy more rights than Indian citizens who is living in their own country. India accounts for 40 per cent of the world’s poor and its fiscal deficit is one of the highest in the world. Almost half of Indian women are still illiterate; about 40 million primary school-age children are not in school.

Indian workers form the third largest foreign work force in Malaysia, with 140,000 of them seeking out a living there.

According to the Indian census of 2001, the total population was 1.028 billion. Hindus numbered 827 million or 80.5 %. About 25 per cent, or 24 million, of those Hindus belong to Scheduled Castes and Tribes. About 40 per cent, or 400 million, are “Other Backward Castes”. 15 per cent belonging to the three upper castes. Dominant group of Hindu nationalists come from the three upper castes who constitute about 10 per cent of the total Indian population but controle the civil service and economy. And thus the caste system virtually leaves lower caste Hindus to an oppressed minority.

About 20 per cent, or 200 million, are religious minorities. Muslims constitutes 138 million or 13.4 per cent, Christians 24 million or 2.3 per cent, Sikhs 19 million or 2 per cent, Buddhists 8 million or 0.8 per cent and Jains 4 million or 0.4 per cent. “Others” numbered 6.6 million or 0.6 per cent. Christians provided education at all levels to other religious groups without prosyletisation. According to Tahir Mahmoud, an Indian Muslim journalist, “The 2.3 per cent Christians in the Indian population cater to 20 per cent of all primary education in India, 10 per cent of all the literacy and community health care, 25 per cent of all existing care of destitutes and orphans, 30 per cent of all the handicapped, lepers and AIDS patients etc”.

1.38 billion.Muslims across India are severely under-represented in government employment, including PSUs. Ironically, West Bengal, a communist ruled state reported 0 (zero) percent of Muslims in higher positions in its PSUs. A Muslim child attends school for three years and four months, compared to the national average of four years. Less than two percent of the students at the elite Indian Institutes of Technology comprise of the Muslim community. ( Justice Rajinder Sachar Committee)

According to the National Human Rights Commission, as on 30th June 2004, there were 3,32,112 prisoners in Indian jails out of which 2,39,146 were under trial prisoners. That’s more than 70 per cent. India’s jails hold a disproportionate number of the country’s minority Muslims, a sign of discrimination and alienation from the Hindu majority.

Hindu upper caste men, who constitute just eight per cent of the total population of India, hold over 70 per cent of the key posts across newsrooms in the country. The so-called twice-born Hindu castes dominate 85 per cent key posts despite constituting just 16 per cent of the total population, while the intermediary castes a represent meagre three per cent.

The Hindu Other Backward Class groups, who are 34 per cent of the total population, have a share of just four per cent in the Indian newsrooms. Muslims, who constitute about 13 per cent of the population, control just 4 per cent top posts while Christians and Sikhs have a slightly better representation. But the worst scenario emerges in the case of Scheduled Castes (SCs) and Scheduled Tribes (STs) : Based on CSDS study, 2006

India’s subordinate courts have a backlog of over 22 million cases while the 21 high courts and the Supreme Court have 3.5 million and 32,000 pending cases (2006) There were 13 judges for every million people. Merely 7.8% Muslim employees working in Judicial sector of 12 high-Muslim population states surveyed by Sachar Panel.

According to the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, India has the highest number of street children in the world. There are no exact numbers, but conservative estimates suggest that about 18 million children live and labor in the streets of India’s urban centers. Mumbai, Delhi and Calcutta each have an estimated street-children population of over 100,000.

The level of child malnutrition in India is among the highest in the world, higher even than some countries in sub-Saharan Africa, says the report ‘Extent of Chronic Hunger and Malnutrition in India’ by the UN’s special rapporteur on the right to food (2006)

When it comes to Human Rights issues in India, it is not ratified the Convention against Torture, its citizens do not have the opportunity to find recourse in remedies that are available under international law. The victims are trapped with the local Hindu caste system, which in every aspect militates against their rights. Many victims conclude that a justice system accessible to the poor of the land does not exist at all.

RSS is the Hindu-supremacist organization that has fueled a rise in anti-Dalit, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian and anti-Sikh violence. . The former ruling party, the BJP is the political arm of the RSS and helped fascism to spread across civil, defence and educational steams of the society. The caste system and the fact that the government machinery is basically controlled by this Hindu-centric group means that violence against vicitims largely goes unpunished.

I believe HINDRAF and Uthay Kumar is closely associated with RSS, a Hindu Taliban who spoil India’s social fabric with fascist ideas. Let us not forget that, Malaysia’s ethnic Indians are mostly from Indian state of Tamil Nadu, an impoverished land lagging with illiteracy and feudalism. The poverty in Tamil Nadu, compelled them to move Sri Lanka, where they are now in war with their hosts, Sinhalese.

Do the ethnic Indians in Malaysia want to come back to India? I bet none of them want to come back to India. Instead of asking for more rights they should try to learn to respect their hosts, the Malaysian people. Only such an attitude will bring them prosperity. Let them not forget the poor and impoverished indian citizens living in their own country.

8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Icompletely appreciate the ills in Indian society. The Indian onstitution is not discriminating against any Indians. There are reservations for deprived people. This is the plot of politicians with their corrupt practices want status quo.

In Malaysia Malays are well represemted everywhere and poor Indians are constitutionally discriminated, which is not acceptable for any standard in the modern world.

2:38 AM  
Anonymous poor malaysian said...

I supported BERSIH because it bring all 3 races together for a good cause but hindraf is putting hatred between the Indian and Malay in particular. It is trying to tear apart our Malaysia. Those protesters are acting like thug. The police did a good job. Withoput them we would other wise having a racial riot. The hindraf is trying to provoke a 'ethnic cleaning' by the Malay or government.

6:04 PM  
Blogger Anak Malaysia said...

16 December 2007

Prime Minister of Malaysia
Block Utama
Bangunan Perdana Putra Fax: 03-88883444
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan
62502 Putrajaya

Dear Prime Minster

Your detention of HINDRAF Indian leaders grossly violates the international norm of human and political rights as exposed in the UN Human Rights Charter. Further, your intimidation of detaining `civil protesters under the Internal Security Act is violates the fundamental rights of citizens to participate in peaceful protests. The use of the ISA by your government calls for condemnation of the International community of civilised nations. The application of ISA against peaceful political dissenters is unlawful application of the ISA. The legislators in framing the ISA intended to be applied for those who pose serious threat against the State, not peaceful protesters who opt to exercise their right to peaceful protest against the discriminatory laws of Malaysia. Sir by using the provisions of ISA you have misused your ministerial powers. You too, Sir, with due respect, is not above the law.

We the Indians of Malaysia, not the privileged and compliant Indian MIC leaders, expect the Malaysian government to produce the evidence any such involvement or links to terrorism or any threat the national security by the HINDRAFF leaders immediately, failing which we demand the release of those detained under ISA. Secondly the disfranchised Malaysian Indians ask the Malaysian government to cease providing this misinformation of links to terrorism internationally. Failure on the part of the Malaysian government t to produce this demonising evidence will further remove the credibility of your government and that of your ministers, particularly those who are regarded as the guardians of the Malaysian legal system.

Sir, the right to hold peaceful protests to secure one’s civil and human rights is an inalienable fundamental right, and no law can expunge this right. Any one who attempts to do so, for whatever reason and means , will be condemned as an oppressor in violation of the basic human rights including political and civil rights that are enshrined in the various UN Charters. Sir, therefore your usage of the ISA to incarcerate the voice of the Indian community leaders, without fair trial, you stand to be judged by the international community and bear the consequences of the judgment. Further, your Depauty Prime Minster’s comparison of the HINRAFF leaders to that of arms bearers of Islamic faith is detestable and shows the bankruptcy of political nuance of your deputy.

Sir, hence your detention of the HINRAFF leaders under the ISA violates the basic rights to peaceful protest, and I ask you in the name of human decency, to release these leaders immediately or charge them through a judicial process, failing which, your Prime Mastership of inclusive governance has to be questioned in the international forums.

Since independence of Malaysia, 50 years ago, the Malaysian Constitutions has been systematically eroded by the Malay dominated UMNO politicians, whereby racial discrimination has come to be well entrenched in law and institutionalised in the daily administration of the Malaysian government. Regrettably the Indian community, as much as the Malaysian Chinese, have become immune to and subjugated of this discriminatory treatment over the years. They have been to loose sight of their birthrights and their right to equality in law. They have become accustomed to this denial of equal opportunities to bring about equal life chances. The educated Indian like me, Sir, can no longer bear this discriminatory treatment based on ethnicity. We too wish to live with dignity with equal rights, not as aliens in ones country of birth. We too demand our inalienable right to realise our full potential as equal human beings. Any discriminatory law that denies us these rights will have to be opposed and we intend to do this in a legitimate and peaceful manner within the due process of local and international law.
Regrettably, the Indian community has become immune to this discriminatory treatment over the years and lost sight of their birthrights to equality in law. They have become accustomed to this denial of equal opportunities to bring about equal life chances. The educated Indian like me can no longer bear this discriminatory treatment based on ethnicity.

The same UMNO dominated BN government has expediently used unrepresentative persons like Mr. Sammy Velu as your point of reference to address the concerns of Indians. As a beneficiary of your anointed racially segmented political system, Mr. Samy Velu is not capable of advocating for the rights of the Malaysian Indians. Sir, if you continue to use him as the spokesperson for Indians your partnership with the Malaysian Indians is doomed for failure. The BN has positioned Samy Velu and his cronies and rewarded them well to suppress the rights of the Malaysian Indians, using the misguided principle of tribal loyalty, based on race.

The concept of Bumiputra, used as a tool for racial discrimination, is obnoxious and abhorrent in the present day of human rights against the Malaysian Indians and Chinese. This concept of “Bumiputra”, ironically a derivative of Indian language, accords an illegitimate position of privilege and racial superiority. It gives the Malays the distasteful right to regard Malaysian Indians and Chinese as mere interlopers who simply has to be tolerated and treated as an alien without any birthrights. It gives the Malays the legitimacy to discriminate other Malaysian citizens who are not Malays. To the Malaysian Indians it is another form of colonialism, dominance of one community over another powerless community by virtue of race.

Sir, no more of this unequal treatment based on race. It is time for the Malaysian Indians to challenge their discriminated and marginalised position. Sir, with due respect, you as the Prime Minister of Malaysia have failed to appreciate the core frustrations of Indians and have resorted to using of the ISA to oppress the legitimate voice of their concerns. Your defence that you have been compelled to use the detestable laws of ISA to maintain the national security is a feeble and baseless excuse. There is no threat to national security. It is a mere demands of a discriminated section of the community. These demands are made within the ambit of constitutional rights and the Reids Commission. It is a legitimate demand of one section of the community. You avoid addressing the message but have chosen to incarcerate the messengers. Is this the virtuous qualities of a national leader? I do not think it is.

It is widely reported that the Malaysian government, particularly the head of the Malaysian Police Force, is linking HINDRAF to foreign terrorist groups and branding HINDRAF as an extremist group. Sensible people like me find these allegations abhorrent and outrageous lies. These allegations are clearly politically motivated and carry no credibility when the HINDRAFF leaders were engaged in the due process of law. The demands of the marginalised working class Malaysian Indians, in whose origin I hail from in Sungei Siput, cannot be brushed aside as demands of extremist groups. Sir by the same token one must conclude that every UMNO leader who regularly proclaims the rights and privileges of the Malays to the irks of non Malays, must also be incarcerated under the ISA or else, with due respect Sir, you too must be seen as racially discriminatory in the select application of the ISA laws.

After 50 years of independence the use of ISA on unfounded grounds is not acceptable in a civilised nation. The ISA is akin to the tool of a weak dictatorship with no respect to legal procedures. May I remind you, Sir, that it is through legitimate process of constitutional means these denials of fundamental rights are raised by the HINDRAFF leaders. They are raised on behalf of the million of Malaysian Indians. They are not terrorists nor do they pose any threat of subverting national security. The Malaysian government cannot brush aside these demands as acts of terrorism or that of fanatical fringe group. The demands are within the norms and ambit of universal human rights and the process will remain within that legal process, no matter how you and your spin doctors may wish to label the them demand.

Sir, on the 25th of November 2007, from the lobby of Coreus Hotel I witnessed the peaceful march of the working call Indians. I saw them carry no weapons of any kind. I saw the peaceful march. I also saw the provocative behaviour of the Malaysian police force, indiscriminately firing smoke grenades into the crowd. I saw, to my dismay, the use of chemically laced water cannons against the peaceful and unarmed marchers. The behaviour of the police, Sir, is not that of a democratic civilised nation.

Sir, the use of the ISA to shut the legitimate voice will not make the issues disappear within Malaysia or in the International forums. People like me, to whom my birth rights has been denied, was compelled to leave Malaysia, in protest against discriminatory treatment on account of my race as an Indian. I have chosen to be a unit of a statistical minority with equal rights enshrined in law in an adoptive country, than to be a treated with discrimination, embedded in law, in my own country of birth. I will continue to speak out in countries near and far of the discrimination practised in Malaysia, so that I may be able return to my own country of birth with dignity and equality in law. Sir, you may well be aware how the synergy of the International Community was energised to end the Apartheid in South Africa. The same legitimate processes can be reactivated.

Sir, with respect, I ask that the leaders of HINDRAFF be released forthwith and if they have breached any law they be accorded the right to the due process of law.

Yours Faithfully,

Robert K Chelliah
(Ex Kammuning Estate worker)
PO Box 91, Perth ,
Western Australia

Cc International Minority Rights Council, London
The British High Commissioner , Kuala Lumpur
Lim Kiat Seng, DAP
The Star

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anak Malaysia said...

Samy Velu says"
" The Indian diaspora has transformed itself to produce successful entrepreneurs and leaders in a few sectors in their adopted countries, MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said. "

This guy doe not know the difference beween " adopted country" and " country of birth with brith rights".

Is he a fit and proper person to advocate for the rights of Malaysian Indians.

Mr. Velu you may wish to remain as an alien, I wish to be classified as born and bred in malaysia with equal birthright.

what a pitiful soul.

Anak Malaysia

12:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

never in the history of a civilised nation has the incumbent Ministers of a Governement has there been a innstance whereby the demand of fundamental rights of a communti has been crimnalised, demeanised by the rulling party, aided by the racailly segmented MIC.

Where is the crime. What is the crime. Is it a crime to ask not to be discrimnated.? let the world opinion and and the fairminded people answer these questions.

Dont let the malaysian politicians and the media twist the truth. What HINDRAF asked for:

The overwhelming of the 131 written memoranda submitted to the Reid Commission as evidenced by the declassified documents from the Public Records Office, Kew, London, United Kingdom which represented the will and wishes of the then Malayan population were primarily equality and equal opportunities etc for all Malayans irrespective of race or religion as follows: -
2.1 In the grant of state land,
2.2 Admission to public and administrative service;
2.3 To trade and do business, licences, permits etc
2.4 Primary, secondary, skills Training, university and overseas university education.2.5 No special privileges for the Malays,
2.6 No discrimination of any ethnic community based on race or religion,
2.7 The retention of all their places of worship in particular Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites,
2.8 Freedom of Religion,
2.9 Malaya is to be a Secular State and not an Islamic state,
2.10 Right to mother tongue education in particular Tamil schools to be fully aided,
2.11 Minimum wage for the lowest paid, and
2.12 Equal recognition as sons of soil for all Malayan bo

1:11 AM  
Anonymous Anak Malaysia said...

If memebers of HINDRAF, for that matter any Malaysian is subjected to threat of their civil liberties should use the UN convention to seek refugee status in a thrid country such as Australia.

The Malaysian Government has violated and the UN Charter on human rights and is trying to criminalise and demonise the peaceful demands by members of the Indian community.

Today I have advised Mr. Karpal Singh, as defense counsel for HINDRAF leaders, particularly Mr. Moorthy who is in London and one who is being hounded and trailed by the Malaysian government should immediately lodge his application for refugee status, so that (a) the Malaysian Government's attempts to extrdite him will be neutralised and (b) the birth rights rights of Malaysian Indian citizens are brought to the attention of the international community.Any leaders of Hindraff who feels their safety and civil liberties are at risk such persons may wish to consider applying for refugees status to countries like Australia and UK.

United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees - namely, race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion - for which they are presecuted.

In assessing claims of persecution, the following factors are taken into into account:

• any threat to the applicant's life, liberty and/or security

• continued or periodic harassment, detention or arrest

• exile from the home country or to a remote area within that country

• arbitrary arrest, detention or exile (except during emergencies if such measures may be considered necessary to safeguard the safety and rights of others and to maintain order)

• torture and/or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment

• slavery or servitude without compensation

• confiscation of property or assets

• indoctrination or re-education courses whereby members of a particular race, religion, nationality, social or political group are subjected to pressure to change their views and/or ideology.

Mlaysia is a nation among other nations. The UMNO dominated BN, has to review the Social Contract under which Malayan Indpendent was granted. The special privlage of the MAlays was a a social contract that is reveiwable and not one that is enshrined in law as an inalienable right.

Anak Malaysia

8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anak Malaysia said...

You posted earlier as:

" I believe HINDRAF and Uthay Kumar is closely associated with RSS, a Hindu Taliban who spoil India’s social fabric with fascist ideas. Let us not forget that, Malaysia’s ethnic Indians are mostly from Indian state of Tamil Nadu, an impoverished land lagging with illiteracy and feudalism. "

What an unfounded statement that echoes the lies of the Malaysian government. If you cannot demonstrate any evidence of links to these external organisations yo should not dicredit your yourself by repateing the same lies.

Secondly we the third genertaion Malaysian (South) Indians are are Indians by ethnicity only and not migrated from India. We are born and bred in Malaysia with equal birth and citizenship rights. We have nothing to do with India.

Please shift factes from lies.

Anak Malaysia

11:24 PM  
Anonymous palmcop said...

Thanks for the post, really effective info.

9:53 PM  

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